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Farage & Russell Brand

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Nonu Thu 11-Dec-14 17:58:26

Are on question time tonight, should be interesting, hope farage makes mincemeat of him.
tchhmm

granjura Thu 11-Dec-14 18:02:05

Would not miss it for the world- and hope Brand makes mincemeat of Farage ;)

Greyduster Thu 11-Dec-14 18:07:02

Oh God! Spare me from either of them!

NotTooOld Thu 11-Dec-14 18:11:01

I'm going to get home in time to watch this. I also hope F makes mincemeat of B but B is one of those people who always bounces back so it should be very interesting.

Ana Thu 11-Dec-14 18:16:47

Same old cowboy boots, do we reckon? I think NF will bluster and RB will floor him with his usual pseudo-anarchic rantings. It could be a draw!

Ana Thu 11-Dec-14 18:18:12

Oh no, it's Question Time, not Newsnight - we won't be able to see his feet...confused

merlotgran Thu 11-Dec-14 18:20:08

I'd love to watch it but DH hates both of them so I think I'll catch it on iPlayer tomorrow. Two good dramas tonight so they'll do nicely.

durhamjen Thu 11-Dec-14 20:31:03

I feel sorry for Mary Creagh, the Labour International Development Secretary who is also on. She can usually hold her own in Parliament.
Who else is on?

whitewave Thu 11-Dec-14 21:24:49

I read the OP like Russell and Bromley and opened it to see what brand of goods it was!!! Oh well, I pity the audience none of it will make any sense.

durhamjen Thu 11-Dec-14 21:34:55

Just had a look to see who else is on. I think it's possibly the first time there have been more women than men on the panel.

durhamjen Thu 11-Dec-14 21:37:32

Hope someone asks Farage what he thinks of being supported by the ex-leader of the BNP.

rosequartz Thu 11-Dec-14 22:00:27

Early to bed and read my book, I think.

Unless: I think it's possibly the first time there have been more women than men on the panel. shock could be worth watching

soontobe Thu 11-Dec-14 22:13:10

I hope the true Farage shows himself, one way or the other.
I am not expecting Brand to be sensible, but who knows?

granjura Thu 11-Dec-14 22:19:24

WE are an hour ahead and it's been a busy day + teaching early in the morning. Tempted to go to bed, but really want to watch. Hopefully it will be exciting enough to keep us awake.

vegasmags Thu 11-Dec-14 23:11:50

Watching this and following the comments on Twitter. The level of debate at times is such that I expect Jeremy Kyle to rush on with the paternity results.

soontobe Thu 11-Dec-14 23:46:11

At the point to where I have seen [about 1/2 hour]
Camilla Cavendish is talking a lot of sense.
The Labour and Conservative women may as well go home.
Russell Brand - he should stand for parliament, else I dont quite see the point of what he is doing. And what on earth is the point of him answer ing the question "is Britain overcrowded" by talking about Bankers Bonuses.
Nigel Farage - got away lightly so far I think, as a couple of members of the audience are doing his job for him, or better than him.

Tegan Thu 11-Dec-14 23:52:22

vegas; I was going to say that I thought at times that I was watching the Jeremy Kyle show as well sad. Embarrassing as Russell Brand was I do think he actually cares deeply about the people in this country.

soontobe Thu 11-Dec-14 23:58:42

I think he cares too.
I think he shot himself in the foot by previously saying not to vote. That does get the country anywhere at all.
It would only take 1 person to vote in this country, and there would be a party in power!
It also means he has to go back on what he said if he ever were to stand.
He doesnt seem to agree with himself anymore on that point. Which begs the question, of how often he is going to end up disagreeing with himself.
He does agree that he is learning things.

soontobe Fri 12-Dec-14 00:03:32

As I said before, I have been thinking about voting UKIP.
Someone said, I think it was granjura, that I need to be careful what I wish for.
I was actually a bit alarmed at the strength of support there was in the audience at some of the things he said. And the Labour woman looked scared to me, at the reaction and support he was getting.

I will watch the second half tomorrow.

durhamjen Fri 12-Dec-14 00:50:34

Quote from Arthur Smith.
"Britain is overpopulated, but only by Nigel Farage."

Someone in the audience said that there were a lot of immigrants where she lived. 99.8% white British in Kent, so it's no wonder Mary Creagh was scared at the support Farage was getting.
Far from being cowed, Mary Creagh was told to shut up and let him do his job by Dimbleby.

Eloethan Fri 12-Dec-14 00:59:42

I think Russell Brand feels that if you want to vote for a party with socialist views, there isn't a mainstream party which fits that description. Others might argue that the Green Party has the most radical policies and it might be worth voting for them, if only to demonstrate that their support is increasing.

I do feel Russell Brand genuinely cares about people and is as entitled as anyone else to express strong views without being told that he has no right to do so unless he stands for parliament. Why isn't the same demand made of equally opinionated right wing panellists?

On the face of it, the journalist from the Sunday Times seemed reasonable but on the point of privatisation of the NHS I don't think her argument stacked up. She said that it was a disgrace what carers were being paid but it is because carers are employed by agencies and private companies that their wages are so low. Private providers always pay their workers very badly so as to maximise their own profits.

UKIP is trying to be all things to all people but its core principles are to the right of the Conservative Party and, if they enter into a coalition with the Conservatives, they can ditch the policies that were put in to attract Labour voters. I really hope that (understandably) disillusioned voters aren't tempted to go for Nigel Farage. I don't believe he's the affable, common-sense, man of the people he portrays. I think he's dangerous and sometimes that mask slips to reveal quite a nasty individual.

durhamjen Fri 12-Dec-14 01:07:27

Surrounded by other nasty individuals, Eloethan.
Does anyone know any pleasant Ukippers, or anyone who will admit to it?

Knowsley Fri 12-Dec-14 01:09:28

It was held in Canterbury. Which leads me to ask, 'If Russell Brand and Nigel Farage fell off the top of Canterbury Cathedral at the same time, who would hit the ground first?'.

The answer, of course, is 'Who cares?'.

thatbags Fri 12-Dec-14 08:08:36

I didn't watch the programme but a few people on Twitter are remarking on the sensibleness of Camilla Cavendish when compared to "those two".

whenim64 Fri 12-Dec-14 08:31:38

It was pathetic, bags. Farage was actually more polite than Brand, whose argument is valid but he doesn't know how to put his point across. Repeating 'trust me, I've seen where all the money is, I know who's got the power' made no impression on the audience. When urged to stand as a candidate in the election, he said he wouldn't because he didn't want to end up like 'them.' His constant put-downs of the female panellists didn't endear him, either. A shame, because I agree with what he wants to get across and he is passionate enough to lead a campaign and have some influence.

Camilla Cavendish appeared to be the only person worth listening to. References to it being like the Jeremy Kyle show were spot on!