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Luckygirl Tue 28-Jul-15 11:13:26

Swineherd by Eilean Ni Chuilleanain

When all this is over, said the swineherd,
I mean to retire where
Nobody will have heard of my special skills
And conversation is mainly about the weather.

I intend to learn how to make coffee, at least as well
As the Portugese lay sister in the kitchen
And polish the brass fenders every day.
I want to lie awake at night
Listening to the cream crawling to the top of the jug
And the water lying soft in the cistern.

I want to see an orchard where the trees grow in straight lines
And the yellow fox finds shelter between nay-blue trunks,
Where it gets dark early in summer
And the apple-blossom is allowed to wither on the bow.

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I like the feel of this poem even though there are some paradoxes in there.

My favourite lines are:

"I want to lie awake at night
Listening to the cream crawling to the top of the jug
And the water lying soft in the cistern."

It is enough to make you fall asleep!

annsixty Tue 28-Jul-15 11:22:21

I love that Luckygirl to me it is about living well after a life, probably of toil, appreciating simplicity and doing just what one wants.

janerowena Wed 29-Jul-15 14:11:35

I like that one, too.

AshTree Wed 29-Jul-15 14:20:34

Me too. I've noticed as I've got older that I appreciate simple things, things I didn't have time in a busy life to notice. This poem really resonates with me.

feetlebaum Wed 29-Jul-15 14:45:09

Home is so sad. It stays as it was left,
Shaped to the comfort of the last to go
As if to win them back. Instead, bereft
Of anyone to please, it withers so,
Having no heart to put aside the theft

And turn again to what it started as,
A joyous shot at how things ought to be,
Long fallen wide. You can see how it was:
Look at the pictures and the cutlery.
The music in the piano stool. That vase.

Philip Larkin

jinglbellsfrocks Wed 29-Jul-15 17:55:32

That is so sad.

Ana Wed 29-Jul-15 18:04:40

Goose bumps!

janerowena Wed 29-Jul-15 18:07:00

sad

AshTree Wed 29-Jul-15 18:23:10

feetlebaum sad

Luckygirl Wed 29-Jul-15 21:40:32

We are supposed to be looking at Larkin for the next meeting of our poetry group, so if anyone has any of his that they can share, it would be a help.

feetlebaum Wed 29-Jul-15 22:35:11

The Whitsun Weddings by Philip Larkin, 1958

That Whitsun, I was late getting away:
Not till about
One-twenty on the sunlit Saturday
Did my three-quarters-empty train pull out,
All windows down, all cushions hot, all sense
Of being in a hurry gone. We ran
Behind the backs of houses, crossed a street
Of blinding windscreens, smelt the fish-dock; thence
The river's level drifting breadth began,
Where sky and Lincolnshire and water meet.

All afternoon, through the tall heat that slept
For miles inland,
A slow and stopping curve southwards we kept.
Wide farms went by, short-shadowed cattle, and
Canals with floatings of industrial froth;
A hothouse flashed uniquely: hedges dipped
And rose: and now and then a smell of grass
Displaced the reek of buttoned carriage-cloth
Until the next town, new and nondescript,
Approached with acres of dismantled cars.

At first, I didn't notice what a noise
The weddings made
Each station that we stopped at: sun destroys
The interest of what's happening in the shade,
And down the long cool platforms whoops and skirls
I took for porters larking with the mails,
And went on reading. Once we started, though,
We passed them, grinning and pomaded, girls
In parodies of fashion, heels and veils,
All posed irresolutely, watching us go,

As if out on the end of an event
Waving goodbye
To something that survived it. Struck, I leant
More promptly out next time, more curiously,
And saw it all again in different terms:
The fathers with broad belts under their suits
And seamy foreheads; mothers loud and fat;
An uncle shouting smut; and then the perms,
The nylon gloves and jewellery-substitutes,
The lemons, mauves, and olive-ochres that

Marked off the girls unreally from the rest.
Yes, from cafés
And banquet-halls up yards, and bunting-dressed
Coach-party annexes, the wedding-days
Were coming to an end. All down the line
Fresh couples climbed aboard: the rest stood round;
The last confetti and advice were thrown,
And, as we moved, each face seemed to define
Just what it saw departing: children frowned
At something dull; fathers had never known

Success so huge and wholly farcical;
The women shared
The secret like a happy funeral;
While girls, gripping their handbags tighter, stared
At a religious wounding. Free at last,
And loaded with the sum of all they saw,
We hurried towards London, shuffling gouts of steam.
Now fields were building-plots, and poplars cast
Long shadows over major roads, and for
Some fifty minutes, that in time would seem

Just long enough to settle hats and say
I nearly died,
A dozen marriages got under way.
They watched the landscape, sitting side by side
- An Odeon went past, a cooling tower, And
someone running up to bowl - and none
Thought of the others they would never meet
Or how their lives would all contain this hour.
I thought of London spread out in the sun,
Its postal districts packed like squares of wheat:

There we were aimed. And as we raced across
Bright knots of rail
Past standing Pullmans, walls of blackened moss
Came close, and it was nearly done, this frail
Travelling coincidence; and what it held
stood ready to be loosed with all the power
That being changed can give. We slowed again,
And as the tightened brakes took hold, there swelled
A sense of falling, like an arrow-shower
Sent out of sight, somewhere becoming rain.

janerowena Wed 29-Jul-15 22:52:51

I was trying to find my favourite of his, when I found this

malvernbooks.com/tag/philip-larkin/

The one I like says that we would never appreciate the beauty of something as much if we had nothing awful to compare it to - a willow growing from a sewage works, for example.

AshTree Wed 29-Jul-15 23:05:54

One of my favourite of Philip Larkin's poems - my brother wrote this out and gave it to his daughter on her wedding day. He wanted to read it out, but couldn't as it choked him up too much. (Her maiden name had 5 syllables, so it was very appropriate).

Maiden Name

Marrying left your maiden name disused.
It's five light sounds no longer mean your face,
Your voice, and all your variants of grace;
For since you were so thankfully confused
By law with someone else, you cannot be
Semantically the same as that young beauty:
It was of her that these two words were used.

Now it's a phrase applicable to no one.
Lying just where you left it, scattered through
Old lists, old programmes, a school prize or two,
Packets of letters tied with tartan ribbon -
Then is it scentless, weightless, strengthless, wholly
Untruthful? Try whispering it slowly,
No, it means you. Or, since you're past and gone,

It means what we feel now about you then:
How beautiful you were, and near, and young,
So vivid, you might still be there among
Those first few days, unfingermarked again.
So your old name shelters our faithfulness,
Instead of losing shape and meaning less
With your depreciating luggage laden.

Luckygirl Thu 30-Jul-15 09:48:31

Thank you so much for these poems and links - they will be very useful to me.

feetlebaum Mon 03-Aug-15 06:40:52

I can't help noticing that it comes as a surprise to realise that the Larkin poem I have just read is in rhyme - it feels like blank verse, so beautifully is it crafted that the rhymes don't leap out at you! And they are always technically correct too, nothing sloppy... unless it suits the mood. In the second verse of Home Is So Sad above, he rhymes as, was and vase - consistently imperfect.