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The Iron Lady

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susiecb Sun 15-Jan-12 10:28:52

As there was a great deal in the press about this film I thought I would say what my impression was when i saw it yestareday. I have to say I am no fan of the woman but very interested in political history so bearting in mind it wasnt a documentary this is what I felt about it.
- Meryl Streep was excellent as per all reviews but so was Jim Broadbent as Dennis.
- The portrayal seemed to me about a woman in deep depression living on her memories and regrets rather than a picture of dementia ( and I've nurses a few in my time!)
- it was good to have a reminder of events of that time with the actual newsreel footage.
- it seems that David Cameron is treading the same economic path exactly as if she had given him a script.
- Carol Tatcher is much nuttier than portrayed in the film - was she and advisor?

On the whole I enjoyed the film, the supporting cast played the other politicians well particularly Anthony Head as Geoffrey Howe and Richard E Grant as Michael Heseltine. Contrary to the opinions I have heard about not going to see the film as Maragret Tatcher is not your political cup of tea I think it is worth as look - reinforced my opinion of her as a woman who sold out on other women, made sure we wont get another woman PM in a very long time, and made some people very rich but even more people not only very poor but ensured their future generations would also remain very poor.

Ariadne Sun 15-Jan-12 10:30:59

Couldn't agree more; saw it last week, and oh, the memories! But yes, Meryl Streep was amazing.

crimson Sun 15-Jan-12 10:48:12

Interesting to read what you've said, susiecb. My partner [who comes from a mining area] was loath to see the film, and by yesterday I had decided it was best avoided. I had hoped it would show both sides of the Thatcher years, but I understand the miners strike was touched on very briefly? I hated the woman more than anyone at the time, and my feelings haven't changed. She now gets several millions each year as a sort of retirement gift [thanks to John Major who also gets a fair bit] and she made a packet as a consultant to Philip Morris in his attempt to resist the ban on smoking adverts, and helped create new markets in Eastern Eurpoe and third World countries. No decent person would take money for that imo [spoken as an ex smoker as well]. I still wish Barbara Castle had been our first lady PM; she was wonderfully portrayed in Made in Dagenham! This isn't just me saying this from a biased Labour Party perspective either, because a biopic of Blair would have me throwing eggs at the screen!

Carol Sun 15-Jan-12 11:06:49

Yes, what an opportunity missed - Barbara Castle would have made an excellent opposition leader and PM.

carboncareful Sun 15-Jan-12 15:14:43

Dare not go. How could I stop myself making comments in loud wisper? Or doing deep sighs. Or shouting out "Maggie, Maggie, Maggie; Out, out out!!"

Maybe I should go...............

MrsJamJam Sun 15-Jan-12 15:29:14

Went to see this yesterday, not quite knowing what to expect. Thought that Meryl Streep gave the most wonderful performance as a sad old dear at the mercy of her memories which are all getting a bit muddled. The best screen acting I think I have ever seen and certainly deserves an Oscar, as does Jim Broadbent.

The archive footage brought back a lot of what we went through then, and made me feel profoundly grateful for what we have now. OH had a bit of a moment, because he was in the thick of the war in 82 and suddenly saw archive footage of a moment he was intimately involved with. He hadn't expected it to be quite so raw and bring long buried and difficult emotions to the surface. But he still says he was glad we went.

Thought I wouldn't recommend that my parents (late 80s) see it, as I think the portrait of the decline into very old age was gloomy and very sad. But also thought that perhaps if I was widowed it would be quite comforting to have such a vivid hallucination around to keep me company. Perhaps not remembering someone has died is a bit of a blessing.

Anne58 Sun 15-Jan-12 15:47:12

In a column in the DT yesterday Max Pemberton made some (I think) valid comments about the timing of the film and attitudes to dementia. Earlier in the week David Cameron made similar remarks with regard to the timing on the "Today" programme on Radio 4.

I have never been a fan of Mrs Thatcher, but I do agree with the comments made by both the above (do seek out the Max Pemberton article f you can, he is a doctor and I think his views are worth reading).

However from all th reviews I've read and feedback from those who have seen the film it would seem that Meryl Streeps performance is outstanding.

Elegran Sun 15-Jan-12 16:04:53

I had great difficulty finding Max Pemberton's article (as always, the DT seems not to want anyone to actually read things) so for anyone else who would like to read it, here is a link.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/margaret-thatcher/9013910/The-Iron-Lady-and-Margaret-Thatchers-dementia-Why-this-despicable-film-makes-voyeurs-of-us-all.html

His beef is not with the portrayal of Mrs T in her prime, or with the politics, but with the voyeurism of the depiction of Alzheimers while she is still alive.

Elegran Sun 15-Jan-12 16:05:25

Sorry, forgot to blue it. www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/margaret-thatcher/9013910/The-Iron-Lady-and-Margaret-Thatchers-dementia-Why-this-despicable-film-makes-voyeurs-of-us-all.html

utd Tue 26-Feb-13 17:10:02

could not have scipted any better myself .

Nonu Tue 26-Feb-13 18:10:19

Seems very unkind to portray someone who is declining in her later years , as a daft old bat . Couuld it not have waited ????

gracesmum Tue 26-Feb-13 18:14:17

I don't get utd's point confused

Marelli Tue 26-Feb-13 18:19:55

And it's over a year old.