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Does eating bread make you feel 'bagged-up'?

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greenmossgiel Mon 15-Aug-11 20:26:49

Although I love bread (especially my own), it seems to make me feel heavy and bloated. I've realised at last, that if I want to feel comfortable and not over-full, some of my carbohydrates must be met with oatcakes etc. Anyone else dealing with similar? hmm

phoenix Mon 15-Aug-11 20:32:04

When I did Slimming World a while ago, I ate very little bread. When I did re-introduce it it made me feel incredibly bloated!

crimson Mon 15-Aug-11 20:35:21

Haven't ate bread for several months now, and feel much better for it. My stomach is getting flatter and I'm starting to lose weight again. I've gone without bread before, but always slipped back into eating it, and I can just gorge myself on toast. Always keep rice cakes in the house so I can have some with cheese if I want a quick snack. It's a bit like an addiction; when I've not eaten it for a while I get used to not having it in my diet.

dizzyblonde Mon 15-Aug-11 20:39:26

I am doing Slimming World at the moment and eating a lot less bread. Feeling much less bloated.

Jacey Mon 15-Aug-11 20:59:46

Have any of you thought that you may be intolerant to wheat and/or gluten?

After tests I changed my diet ...it is now much easier to buy 'free from' products in our supermarkets. Try it for a few weeks ...no it is not the same 'bread' that you're currently eating ...but you get used to the texture/flavour ...greatly improved in recent years.

It has made a huge difference for me ...but while you're are trying the bread ...remember to remove wheat/gluten in-take from other foods to see if it does make a difference.

Hope this helps you.

greenmossgiel Mon 15-Aug-11 21:03:15

I did wonder about that, Jacey. It may be worth a try hmm.

crimson Mon 15-Aug-11 21:09:48

My Dr Ali's Nutrician Bible comes down very heavy on yeast; thinks it causes all sorts of digestive problems including bloating.

crimson Mon 15-Aug-11 21:11:14

Nutrition..grrrr spelling....

Grumpyoldwoman Mon 15-Aug-11 21:12:36

I am always very tired in the afternoon if I have bread at lunchtime.
Unless it is homemade wholemeal.
I have a very interesting book about (modern) bread and its effects...my daughter has borrowed it and I can't think of its title ..

lucid Mon 15-Aug-11 21:16:29

I too love bread but it didn't love me, and it took me a while to realise that it was the yeast in bread that affected my digestion not the wheat. Now I only eat sour dough bread as it is made with a starter and no added yeast. (I try not to eat too much of that either!). Be careful though because some, so called, sour dough breads have added yeast.

crimson Mon 15-Aug-11 21:58:32

Is that like soda bread? I love soda bread; it makes me think of Ireland.

Joan Tue 16-Aug-11 00:08:12

There is a school of thought that wheat is bad for most of us, and although many of us don't have full blown ceoliac (sp?) disease, we have a mild intolerance, so yes, give up bread made with wheat and see what happens.

There is another school of thought, researched by Barry Groves in his book 'Trick or Treat' that all grain is bad for us, natural fat is good (not transfats of course) and we should really just eat meat, fish, cheese, eggs vegetables except spuds, and some fruit, and never eat any processed food. This is because our bodies have not evolved since the stone age, but our diet has changed hugely. A return to the stone age diet might suit our bodies better.

Perhaps a good start would be simply to avoid wheat in all its forms, including wheetabix. Modern wheat is even worse, because it has been bred so far away from the original that it is unrecognisable.

jangly Tue 16-Aug-11 03:15:22

Don't you go short on your B vits if you don't eat bread?

Joan, if you didn't eat bread or spuds, where would you get your carbs from?

We live a lot longer these days than they did in the stone age.

Baggy Tue 16-Aug-11 05:25:59

We are still evolving and a change in diet is one of the things (one!) that affects evolutionary changes. All the foods we eat nowadays, except meat, are different from what we had before agriculture because it is agriculture that has made them evolve into what we know today.

That said, I agree that bread can make you feel bloated. To solve the problem, I just east less at once. That works. Wheat is very good food, better, in being more 'rounded' with regard to protein and vitamins, than the other grains.

jangly Tue 16-Aug-11 08:17:45

Dr Spock reckoned that oats was the most nourishing.

susiecb Tue 16-Aug-11 09:19:50

Bread is definitley the enemy but I love it. like you Ladies felt much better when on Slimming World so its back there in September after my holiday.

jangly Tue 16-Aug-11 09:28:18

Bread and jam is well worth a bit of bloating.

And the odd "jam tart" that may follow later.

Although that is more the fresh fruit.

I think.

absentgrana Tue 16-Aug-11 10:00:36

What exactly is the problem? If you dislike the bloating feeling you get when you eat bread more than you like eating bread, then don't eat it. Otherwise, just get on with it and bloat away happily. smile

greenmossgiel Tue 16-Aug-11 11:10:32

I won't eat it! It makes me bloat away unhappily! (Mainly because it makes me feel bigger and fatter, too)! Just made some really lovely damson jam though...need bread for that, don't I! grin

absentgrana Tue 16-Aug-11 11:53:04

Scones greenmossgiel smile

Baggy Tue 16-Aug-11 11:54:48

Oatcakes.

Beremeal bannocks.

smile

greenmossgiel Tue 16-Aug-11 13:23:27

Ooh - what a lovely idea! My friend is coming in about half an hour - I'll bash some scones out for her - (and show off!) grin

Jacey Tue 16-Aug-11 19:42:10

Have to say ..that coming off wheat/gluten ...using other grains like rye ...I lost weight ...this was a side effect that made me happy smile

Did anyone else read that book ...'Eat right for your blood group'? Well I think that was what it was called ...basis being that blood groups developed from ancient groups within the area you were born ...therefore foods introduced to your culture were not necessarily good for you ...so 'potatoes' are not good for most Europeans!! sad

greenmossgiel Tue 16-Aug-11 20:37:30

I actually haven't had any bread for about a week, I don't think. I'd not had much of an appetite what with one thing and another happening, so there was no munching of lunchtime sandwiches. I've stopped feeling 'bagged-up', so perhaps bread or its ingredients have been causing the problem? hmm

janreb Wed 17-Aug-11 09:22:00

I feel much better for cutting down on bread, even though I love it. I allow myself a couple of rounds twice a week, always early on in the day though as if I eat it at night I am up all night with indigestion.

glammanana Wed 17-Aug-11 21:01:59

I made the mistake of having toast for breakfast Mon/Tues this week and have suffered for it ,having felt bloated ever since so that is once again a no -no,I had't really had a lot of bread with me being on BHF healthy eating
plan and loosing 2st,but I just craved the toast but have learnt my lesson

greenmossgiel Wed 17-Aug-11 21:05:34

I've still had no bread - only oatcakes and I'm fine so far! hmm

Zephrine Wed 17-Aug-11 21:45:07

What do you mean by oatcakes, the hard biscuity types or the soft pancake ones like rubber frisbees?

glammanana Wed 17-Aug-11 21:59:23

Zephrine if you didn't like the soft pancake one's you could use them in
the garden to play with your DCs,but seriously I buy the biscuit type one's
from Morrison's they are very nice I will be back to using them in future thats
for sure

Baggy Thu 18-Aug-11 06:39:40

Shetland and/or Orkney oatcakes (hard type) are the best. I mostly find them in triangle shapes. Walker's (of shortbread fame) oatcakes are also VG.

If you say oatcake in Scotland, it means the hard type.

Zephrine Thu 18-Aug-11 08:13:23

Glammanana Best thing to do with them!!

Baggy Thanks for the clarity, I buy Nairn oatcakes sometimes, will look around for others.

greenmossgiel Thu 18-Aug-11 08:35:46

Aldi also have really nice ones! These are round. Nairns make triangular ones as well - but the type Baggy is talking about are even better because they are quite coarse and grainy. I also buy Pittenweem Oatcakes from Mellis' Cheese shop (Edinburgh, St. Andrews). Lovely!

expatmaggie Thu 18-Aug-11 09:01:36

I feel the same when I eat bread. I have eaten crispbread( Ryvita) for years instead of bread and my only treat is ONE slice of toast in the morning for breakfast then the empty stomach is not so easily overloaded. Crisbreads are double baked and this is easier for us to digest. I have crispbread, the kind without yeast, in my overnight case as I sometimes have to babysit at short notice and I have also taken it into hospital with me.

Joan is right, humans have only eaten grains for 10,000 years which is just small fragment of time in our history. In the Stone Age diet, meat and veg is fantastic for losing weight and getting rid of allergies but after a time you long for a buttered roll and would give up all sweets just for a bite into one. I've done that- got the tea shirt and still can't give up carbs permanently.

Annobel Thu 18-Aug-11 09:03:03

I used to love the big, chunky, triangular ones which we knew as bannocks - not to be confused with a Selkirk bannock which is a shiny kind of fruity teacake. In our hall of residence in St Andrews, we used to have bannocks for Sunday breakfast because the bakery wasn't open for rolls. It made the decision to get up on Sunday a lot easier for me!

Baggy Thu 18-Aug-11 10:11:34

I love the chunky bannocks as well!

I think Stone Age people may have collected the seed heads of primitive wheat, rye, barley, oats, and, for all we know, other grasses. They probably 'processed' some of them by grinding and mixing with water. One day some yeast spores will have got in and fermented a bit and hey presto, bread! As has been remarked, ten thousand or so years is a mere blip in evolutionary terms. I daresay we are still adapting to bread. But we'd better adapt because grain of some sort is the staple food of all human societies except for a few very tiny pockets of remaining early cultures.

Baggy Thu 18-Aug-11 10:13:58

Those of us whose genes haven't adapted so well are lucky to have a choice. Not so long ago we would have just died young.

expatmaggie Sat 20-Aug-11 17:23:05

Looking back to what has been written about nutritional history, I suppose we did eat grains in a basic form but then we only lived to be about 35 on average and so we died of something else, probably not getting enough food of any kind. The present trend to eat wholemeal forgets that for thousands of years, hours and hours of women's labour were spent ridding the corn of the chaff which is traditionally pigs feed.

Now it is supposed to be good for us but I suspect not for everybody.
I loved oatcakes but am more intolerant of oats than wheat, so keep to rye, wheat and rice.

Baggy Sat 20-Aug-11 18:59:43

The chaff is not part of the whole grain. It is the outer husk which is threshed off all the wheat we eat. Bran and wheatgerm are part of the whole grain but are removed to create white flour. Bran simply acts as bulk in the gut to soak up water and wheatgerm is high in protein (relatively) and in Vitamin E and is therefore good food. I believe it is usually other things in grains that cause people problems, such as gluten, which I understand is part of the protein in the starchy part of the grain. Somebody please correct me if I am wrong.

nannienet Thu 15-Sep-11 13:17:38

Hi there everyone.Yes,and so I have changed to wheat free muesli at breakfast and ryvita with different toppings at lunch.I have noticed a big difference around the waistband of trousers to. A

greenmossgiel Thu 15-Sep-11 14:18:33

I haven't had any bread since I made the original post in the middle of August and I feel so much better. I don't have that heavy feeling in my stomach and I don't have the same feeling of 'palpitations' that followed a lunch with bread, either. I'm enjoying crispbread (even with soup) and oatcakes with no problems whatsoever.

Jacey Thu 15-Sep-11 15:19:21

Check the ingredients on crisp bread boxes ...inc. some ryvita varieties ...they can still contain wheat! I've been 'caught' with new varieties! So the birds have benefitted!!

greenmossgiel Thu 15-Sep-11 16:25:18

Thanks, Jacey - I'll be on the lookout for rogue Ryvitas!

harrigran Thu 15-Sep-11 18:22:22

I had a sore tummy for a few weeks, really bloated, so I saw the doctor and he suggested peppermint oil capsules. I was amazed at how well they worked.

Ariadne Fri 16-Sep-11 18:17:52

Oh yes! Peppermint oil is great. I use Colpermin.

bikergran Thu 27-Oct-11 19:45:09

Health visitor told hubby it was worst thing to eat for digestion..!

crimson Thu 27-Oct-11 19:57:20

I've slipped back into eating bread and feel awful for it. I've also just discovered deli wraps and find they make a nice meal when I'm rushing around; they give me terrible indigestion, but I'm a bit addicted to them [a good way to use up a few bits of left over salad as well]......err, palpitations? I've been getting those recently as well...

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