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AIBU have a little (?!) rant about Gina Ford?

(32 Posts)
jakesgran Tue 06-Mar-12 10:29:34

Oh Gina Ford - I cannot deny you do talk some sense about babies (I am a fan of routine myself - even if not as to-the-letter as the ones you advocate)

But your new book "The Contended Mother"? Advocating new mums should have sex with their partners within weeks of giving birth even if they don't feel like it????? (article here)

With a long career as a maternity nurse etc I can see she has a lot to offer when it comes to tips about dealing with newborns. But as someone who has never actually given birth herself how on earth is she in a position to advise about how a mum should behave or feel in those early days?

If I ever catch one of my DC reading a copy of that book I shall take it away and burn it

(rant over)

wotsamashedupjingl Tue 06-Mar-12 10:56:58

Mumsnet (sister site) nearly got sued by Gina Ford.

I wonder if GNHQ feel it is ok to go on with this thread?

absentgrana Tue 06-Mar-12 11:05:42

Having had a Kieland's (spelling) rotation, resulting in a sizeable episiotomy (I thought the doc was stitching the Bayeaux tapestry) and a bruised bum so that I resembled a baboon, it was a while before I felt brave enough to try. Has she any idea how exhausting breastfeeding is? What about Caesareans – major surgery after all? Silly woman.

CariGransnet (GNHQ) Tue 06-Mar-12 11:11:36

Thanks for looking out for us wotsa - yes this is absolutely fine - opinions and free speech are always welcome as long as they don't break the law (ie slander/libel - "a published false statement that is damaging to a person's reputation")

Click on the link and you will see that Justine Roberts has commented in the Daily Mail piece saying something similar : )

syberia Tue 06-Mar-12 11:14:21

Loved the last sentence in the article! smile (and the cartoon!)

bagitha Tue 06-Mar-12 11:33:58

Anyone who is called a guru in the DM can be safely ignored. Nobody has to read to bloody book, nor buy it. That said, six weeks was OK for me. I just wouldn't presume to tell anyone else any "shoulds" in that department. Silly woman.

wotsamashedupjingl Tue 06-Mar-12 12:09:05

grin Justine's comment is so good!!!

harrigran Tue 06-Mar-12 16:16:00

I have had two episiotomies and if anyone had suggested rumpy-pumpy I think I would have run for the hills. My eldest DC is 43 and I still get discomfort where they made the incision, I could barely walk the first six weeks. Gina Ford should not be writing on subjects she really does not understand.

absentgrana Tue 06-Mar-12 16:27:21

If they rendered you unfit for rumpy-pumpy harrigran, I'm surprised you were up to running. grin

JessM Tue 06-Mar-12 16:35:12

Tempting to invite her to undergo a voluntary episiotomy and then try sex...
Spawn of the devil.
My mate was babysitting her GD while mother worked one day a week. Strict instructions about not picking up baby because picking up or cuddles only allowed at appointed hours. My comment was seeing as she was not getting paid...what the eyes didn't see the heart would not grieve over.

NannaJeannie Tue 06-Mar-12 21:18:15

harrigran I know what you mean about epesiotomies, my DD is 29 and I have had years of discomfort from mine UNTIL .... just recently whilst trying to manage a prolapse, the consultant has prescribed me HRT cream. I have had a lot of relief on the epesiotomy scar, I wish I had used it before. But then I suppose I just put up with the pain and had not complained to my GP.

Gina Ford is barking by the way, no woman should do anything they do not feel like.

Nanban Tue 06-Mar-12 21:31:57

I find it incredibly easy to give all sorts of advice on things I have no personal experience of - I am in fact at my most expert should any of you need anything. I am sure that is how this wonderful book got started. Still, if you need to know how to surf, snowboard, fly to the moon, paint a masterpiece - I'm your woman!

Carol Tue 06-Mar-12 21:45:04

Gina Ford and Alice Beer's book - 'Contented Little Baby' - fabulous for propping one end of the cot up!!!

gracesmum Tue 06-Mar-12 21:48:19

All they are good for?

jeni Tue 06-Mar-12 22:04:04

Can you please tell me ,
1 how to lose weight?
2 how to find an elderly man with lots of money and a bad heart?
3 how to not get bored to tears if I give up work?
4 how to do all of the above at no cost?

merlotgran Tue 06-Mar-12 22:40:33

I indulged in rumpy pumpy within weeks of having my first baby and got pregnant again. There's only 11 months between my first two. DON'T DO IT!!

Nanban Wed 07-Mar-12 07:55:21

jeni - go help at a local riding club/school [or Riding for the Disabled] and learn to ride as part of the package - your weight will certainly drop off, you will be surrounded by all sorts of people and certainly the wealthy, with blokes only too happy to show off and show you how to. I can hear you say maybe yuk but you will be surprised how lovely it can be communing with the horses! Plus of course everyone looks good in the clothes ......

jeni Wed 07-Mar-12 08:48:27

Horses give me asthma, as do catssad

JessM Wed 07-Mar-12 09:02:03

dammit jeni. that is so not fair. that puts volunteering at the cats protection league off the list as well. grin

crimson Wed 07-Mar-12 09:37:25

I fear that the episiotomy I had when giving birth to my first child was instrumental in the failure of my marriage, albeit many years later. A combination of a young woman being embarrassed to discuss it with health professionals [although a young doctor who did my first smear test talked to me about it, unfortunately saying that perhaps I needed it re doing, which I couldn't face at the time!] and a husband who was totally lacking in understanding and very grumpy due to his lack of marital relations. Don't know how I would have felt if someone like GF had told me to just get on with it [which I did, but continued to look on it as a chore rather than an enjoyment]. Oh, the thought of helping with Riding for the Disabled; if I could reduce my working hours I'd love to do that.

Greatnan Wed 07-Mar-12 15:05:25

jeni - I am never bored in my retirement and I don't believe you would be either. I am lucky in being fit enough to take very long walks and to live amongst wonderful scenery - this killed two birds with one stone - pure pleasure and almost two stone lost in a year. No cost, either.
You might find a rich, elderly man on a cruise - but you would have to make the primary investment! You have to speculate to accumulate.

JessM Wed 07-Mar-12 17:05:10

crimson years ago there used to be talk of repairing episiotomies a little tighter than necessary for the husbands benefit!! shock

nanachrissy Wed 07-Mar-12 17:30:19

Merlotgran DITTO!! My two are the same age for 2 weeks of the year!!!

GoldenGran Wed 07-Mar-12 18:07:38

jeni the answer to number 2 must surely be "Carry On Cruising".wink
I sympathise with you about the weight, I am starting and stopping on that one, and it is frustrating. But I do believe the Monday weigh in helps, and I htink you are on WW like me, so eat all your points, Boring , I know, but I think it

GoldenGran Wed 07-Mar-12 18:09:12

I suddenly realised I'm on the Gina Ford thread, sorry I digressed! My daughter ended up throwing her book in the bin.