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Help to A & E..any ideas please!

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AlieOxon Fri 01-Jun-12 20:03:53

I've been trying to find out if I can get some help in getting my daughter to the JR A&E to be checked out for damage to her back...she is still in great pain and can only lie on her front and has great difficulty in moving at all....

She's only been seen very briefly by a doctor who did actually visit and gave her Tramadol injection and Tramadol tablets, which don't seem to be doing very much
Now she's told me she has a bad bruise on her back which wasn't seen by the doctor, probably not visible at the time...I haven't seen this...
I would take her in the car tomorrow, but I don't think she can get in!

I've rung available numbers and the best offer is a return call from NHS direct - in four hours time!

AlieOxon Sat 09-Jun-12 12:09:36

Sorry I haven't been here!
I had a hectic day in Oxford on Thursday and just about knocked myself out doing shopping and getting painkillers via doctor and chemist for Jay.
I get hyper on these steroids and just do everything, and then am still hyper and can't ended up yesterday pretty much of a zombie and didn't have the energy to do anything.
Now I have had a night's sleep....except the cat woke me at 6 am...

When i saw her, Jay was able to move around a bit and heat herself soup and the heat pad - but the pain gets bad at night.
I'm worrying that she is taking too many of the painkillers.

HildaW Thu 07-Jun-12 15:26:39

Hello Alie, hope things are settling down a bit for you. Just thought I'd add my comments as I've had 3 major slipped disc incidents since my late teens and have survived.
The pain is awefull and you do get to the point where you just dont know what to do with yourself.........and do get through it in the end. Bags, I too have done the ole crawling on hands and knees bit too! I think a lot of the problem is that you get so tense and resentful that you are not helping yourself. You must keep up the painkillers so that you can stay as mobile as possible. Its all to easy to find a position where it does not hurt quite so much and make the mistake of staying put, not good.

My last episode was in Oxforshire and my GP referred me to a specialist back clinic that allowed me to have a lovely long consultation with a specialist who really help put things into perspective. When things have settled down get your daughter to find a gentle yoga class that deals with back can be very helpful because it helps you to boost your core strength AND learn a few relaxation methods.
All the best to you both.

AlieOxon Wed 06-Jun-12 14:29:35

Thanks folks for responses....I think I will be able to tell better when I have seen her.
I got a microwaveable bag, as she says warmth helps.

Bags Wed 06-Jun-12 13:45:16

Moving around does help, even if it's crawling on hands and knees (yes, I've been reduced to that) or bent over with two walking sticks (been there too). I hope your daughter feels a steady and gradual improvement, alie flowers Has there been any improvement so far?

AlieOxon Wed 06-Jun-12 13:39:53

Yes Jess the doctor said it again re the Xray (I already had) - she seems to have been encouraging, and has told J to try and move around....she's trying!

Will check re osteo or chiro...Chiro helped me, I remember, a while ago when I had sciatica.
I'm going over to Oxford tomorrow, I think.

JessM Wed 06-Jun-12 13:31:04

Allie she has had an X ray and nothing is broken is it. Backpain can be excruciating but is not necessarily a sign of damage.
Has her GP got an arrangement with either an osteopath or a chiropractor ? as they have far more training in backs than either physios or GPs do and may be able to relieve her pain. Some GPs do.

Anagram Wed 06-Jun-12 12:49:30

A trapped nerve can be really, really bad, AlieOxon. OH had one in his back a few years ago and was in excrutiating pain. He had to be given pethidine in the end just to help him sleep!

AlieOxon Wed 06-Jun-12 12:35:29

Now waiting to hear from J who said the doctor was ringing her at 12.

Thing is, this is so bad that she is scared that it is more than a trapped nerve.

Bags Tue 05-Jun-12 19:31:47

Rotten for her, alie. Has she been given a diagnosis yet, or is it just vague? I do hope she gets better soon. I know how awful it can be. x

AlieOxon Tue 05-Jun-12 18:24:52

It's not done yet.....has been bearable in the day, but her back was agony in the night last night. She's tried to get a duty doctor but hasn't managed to get through all day..........has given up for now but will phone GP in the morning if it is worse again......

gracesmum Tue 05-Jun-12 14:46:26

Looks like a happy outcome? I hope so!

AlieOxon Sun 03-Jun-12 21:20:38

Thanks for messages, all.

Just spoken to J and she is feeling better - but I had to tell her firmly that she couldn't work on Friday!!!! If she doesn't get this through her head she will cripple herself..........
My sister, thank goodness, is going to help her out a bit financially..........

glammanana Sun 03-Jun-12 10:47:44

I'm so glad your DD has had some relief and you can now try and get over the trumatic time you have had,it may take a while for a more marked improvement as it took nearly 6 weeks for the pain I had in my back to ease a few months ago but as long as I kept the medication topped up and rested as much as possible it did ease off,my doctor sent me for x-rays etc and found no major problem.Best wishes for a speedy recovery.

Greatnan Sun 03-Jun-12 07:31:00

I hope you have a relaxing Sunday - you certainly deserve it after such a hectic day.

whenim64 Sun 03-Jun-12 07:19:48

Glad to hear your daughter got there in the end and has some useful medication now. No wonder you were worrying if her back was spasming like that.

AlieOxon Sun 03-Jun-12 07:09:37

My daughter didn't think it warranted it. Also my next door neighbour pointed out that we wouldn't get one she managed to get in the car, lying on her front on the back seat.
Which was not a comfortable journey, but when we got there and I had to go in and ask for help and a trolley, it got us straight into Minor Injuries and speeded things up a lot!
Less than three hours overall. They gave her painkillers and relaxants right away.
Xray showed no bone injury, so they changed her drugs to diclofenac and diazepam (a few) and last I heard last night she was feeling rather better..just hoping it wouldn't get bad again suddenly.

I think I am still processing the whole day, I woke very early - it was complicated by K's father phoning several times wanting to pick him up as well, but Joel was coming after work again so I could go home. Phew!
Thanks again all.

glassortwo Sat 02-Jun-12 09:11:43

AliOxon you will be in a better position once you get over to DD, but I wouldnt hesitate to ring 999 and lay it on if you think it warrants it flowers

AlieOxon Sat 02-Jun-12 08:50:09

Thanks all for responses, it's helped a lot this morning and last night...signing off now as I have to get on....

Bags Sat 02-Jun-12 08:40:58

I was 48/9 when mine 'went' in the loft. It has happened again a couple of times. It does take more than three days, especially if you insist on carrying heavy shopping! Hope your daughter's problem is not a serious one, alie. It is a real nuisance and very painful to deal with even when not serious though. flowers

JessM Sat 02-Jun-12 08:33:44

I guess. You will be able to find out what she is actually doing for herself or not. Back pain can be a big shock if you have never had it before.

AlieOxon Sat 02-Jun-12 08:03:15

Looks like I am popping today. I'm improving slowly - I was over on Wed and she insisted on carrying her shopping, bad move. Wants to be independant. That was the last straw! I keep telling her this back stuff is cumulative...this I know for myself!

She has a tendancy to not tell everything at first. So I get the story in bits, like the bruising. (Mind you she's very bleary with the Tramadol.
She doesn't tell me things if she thinks they will worry me. As I know this, I worry more!

I'm going because I want to check the situation. I was going to have Kamil (the 11 year old) this week but he is needed there if Joel, the star helper, is at work.
Only K and J live there now.
I can see me ringing 999, though.

JessM Sat 02-Jun-12 07:46:25

It has been going on for about 3 days now hasn't it alie - is she getting up and going to the loo?
Difficult for you as you are presumably not up to popping over - is she given to "laying it on a bit thick" when talking to mum (she wouldn't be the first) - or is she usually a stoical type?
(I have one of each - one that did not tell me he had cancer and the other has a long track record of offloading all his anxieties etc as soon as he hears my voice. Growing out of it at last I think... )

AlieOxon Sat 02-Jun-12 07:38:14

She's 42.

AlieOxon Sat 02-Jun-12 07:22:09

Well that's encouraging Bags
I'm up early of course and waiting a bit as my daughter hasn't slept much this week and I don't want to wake her if she is asleep - I will send a text soon and she'll ring me when she's ready.
We'll discuss symptoms.

Religions don't help women.

Bags Sat 02-Jun-12 07:17:07

i was once out of action for a few days because something 'went' in my back. My main worry was that I was in the loft and DD was downstairs on her own, aged four. I couldn't move much but managed to get onto my hands and knees and with forced calmness explain to her that I needed my phone which was in my handbag which was hanging up in the cupboard under the stairs and was out of her reach! She managed to get a chair to stand on but said she it wasn't there! I calmly through gritted teeth said try again.

Long silence

Next thing I knew she'd climbed up the loft ladder with it.

me having kittens while she went down the ladder again.

Called my neighbour, who was at home, thank goodness, and came over. She told me to call 999. They asked lots of questions, including about my breathing, then sent an ambulance. The paramedics got me down or rather, I got myself down with two large paramedics there to help me, and onto my bed. They checked there was nothing serious and left, as did neighbour with DD for the rest of the day, though she did call me intermittently.

After a while I was able to move about enough to make cups of tea, go to the loo etc. I had been digging the nursery school garden for a week. It was hard Oxfordshire clay. I expect my muscles had got over tired and I had strained something, plus there is always some inflammation in my lower spine from arthritis.

Afterwards I learned that neighbour's big, strong, cricket-playing husband had been at home all the time. He could have come and saved me a 999 call!

Except he couldn't, because of his religion, apparently, help an unrelated woman. That was the excuse his very embarassed wife gave anyhow confused.

Or maybe he'd just never been a boy scout.

Anyway, the person on the end of the 999 line was wonderful and so were the paramedics. There was no huffiness at all.