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in expecting to actually be able to read a signature.

(21 Posts)
Rosiebee Sat 07-Jul-12 23:24:23

The dealer I've usually used when renewing the car has sent me a letter, basically looking for business. The scrawl at the bottom of the letter in no way resembles his actual name which is printed. He wants me to call the garage but as he can't be bothered to spend a couple of seconds to write a legible signature, I really can't be bothered to pick up the phone. He can't be that busy. To me it comes across as arrogance or having an enormous sense of self importance that people think they just need to basically do a scribble. Are they trying to give the impression that they've got too much to do to spend time writing their name out clearly? It's sloppiness. I know I'm coming across as the retired teacher that I am. I just see it as bad manners - as though we're not worth a few seconds of their precious time. Rant over. Thanks. hmm

tanith Sun 08-Jul-12 10:11:32

When you have to sign your sig many times a day it does become a scrawl , as the name is clearly printed and the person signing will know that you don't actually need to read the sig to know who the letter is from I really don't see that it matters.

absentgrana Sun 08-Jul-12 10:21:24

A legible signature would surely be much harder to forge than a scrawl, so it would seem that there is a practical reason for it as well as its being an act of courtesy.

Barrow Sun 08-Jul-12 12:34:50

When I was working I had to sign a lot of things through the day (and a mound of letters at the end of the day). My signature was always clear - that way the recipient knew I had read the letter and signed it not some faceless clerk.

jeni Sun 08-Jul-12 13:01:16

When I was a gp, my father, also a gp said that my signature looked like a caterpillar run over by an articulated lorry. So I sigbed

jeni Sun 08-Jul-12 13:03:20

Signed the next one carefully. 10mins later the chemist was on the phone ' I think we have a forged prescription here'grin

FlicketyB Sun 08-Jul-12 19:47:50

DD has a signature that looks like a hyroglyph with no semblance to her name. I have told her several times that it would be very easy to forge but she just says the bank has never complained and nor as anybody else, sigh

granjura Sun 08-Jul-12 21:04:24

Yep - if you can read a doctor's signature on a prescription- call the cops!

jeni Sun 08-Jul-12 21:08:06


gracesmum Sun 08-Jul-12 21:55:52

Anybody see the Matt cartoon about the doctors' strike a few weeks ago? All carrying illegible placards grin

nanaej Sun 08-Jul-12 22:57:57

I don't think I ever take much notice of signatures. Especially if it is a generic letter..poor chap may be on his uppers and desperate for a bit of business and people are worried about his signature??. I actually think it's easier to copy a neat sig than a scrawl!

Ella46 Mon 09-Jul-12 16:37:50

When Adam was a lad, I used to work in a bank, and we had to check the signatures on every cheque that came through the system.
Now the signatures on cheques and a lot of other forms are redundant as they either get scanned/have magnetic numbers/or pin numbers.

Bags Mon 09-Jul-12 17:25:31

My name takes too long to write so my signature comprises my initials in a flourish. It's not meant to be legible, especially as I was taught always to print my name underneath when signing a letter anyway; it's just My Mark. That's all signatures were ever meant to be. Think signet rings and sealing wax.

Anagram Mon 09-Jul-12 17:32:06

Yes, it's a matter of pride to some people that their signature is illegible!

Bags Mon 09-Jul-12 17:44:57

Not a matter of pride for me, nag, if mine is illegible. I don't know if anyone else can read it because no-one has ever said. The letters I use are all formed in my usual script which was legible when I wrote a lot. No, pride doesn't come into it; it's just a unique mark. So long as it is clear who is represented by the signature (by the printed name – printed by hand or by machine), legibility of the unique mark is surely irrelevant? It is pattern recognition that is important.

Anagram Mon 09-Jul-12 18:12:13

My father was proud of his scrawl - but it was embarrassing for me when forms etc. were handed back at school by the monitor and they could never read it. It was only a short surname, but the signature could have belonged to a Featherstonehaugh or similar!

Anagram Mon 09-Jul-12 18:39:54

Actually, I've just realised Mr Anagram's signature is just a scribble! But because it's always the same scribble, he's never had any problems, even in the days when cheques were more common.

nanaej Mon 09-Jul-12 18:56:09

I once had to go to the bank to re submit my signature in person! I had unconsciously changed the way I wrote the E and it had become more rounded in shape!

Annobel Mon 09-Jul-12 19:12:00

My parents had legible signatures and so have I - but my DSs are horrible scrawls. However, what matters is that they are consistent scrawls.

POGS Mon 09-Jul-12 21:03:59

I do agree to a degree but I have to throw something into the mix for some people who are not just lazy or too busy to care.

My S.I.L is dyslexic and it's not just his signature you can't read, there are a lot of dyslexics around!

Anagram Mon 09-Jul-12 21:07:43

You're right, POGS, but as far as signatures are concerned, consistency is the key, not legibility.
I agree with whoever said it is good practice to print or type one's name underneath the signature when writing a business letter anyway.