AIBU to think this is unbelievably selfish

Old Meg: I can’t see any problem with 0800 hrs. Enjoy ?

OldMeg Just when you think you have had heard it all.
What gives you the idea your neighbours will be remotely interested in your U.S friends conversations.? At least if your neighbours are' listening in' which I am sure they will have far better things to do, they will understand what is being said.

Slightly off piste but related, I’d like your opinions on this.

I have visitors from the States staying the first two week of August. We had a lovely patio area (though I say so myself) just outside the kitchen door, with tables and umbrellas and lots of tubs of colourful plants and it gets the sun in the morning. Visiting people tend to gravitate towards it and we (DH & myself) usually have breakfast out there in the summer.

Our US visitors do tend to talk more loudly than us Brits and I’m aware that neighbours don’t want to be woken too early. I’m prepared to say quite firmly not to go out/there before a certain time.

What time would be reasonable? I have one in my head but would like the opinion of others.

You are not being unreasonable at all. You mention that the neighbours on the other side of your new neighbours are also bothered by the noise from a squeaky trampoline at 6 a.m. so why don't you ask the new neighbours and the old ones in for coffee at the same time?

Then use the excellent suggestions regarding WD40 and ask nicely if the children please could play something quiet until at least 8 a.m.?

I love OldMeg's suggestions. The only thing is the children round us seem to be up themselves until 10.30 - 11.pm and by that sort of time I'm ready for my own bed. I also wonder why it is children see the need to scream so much these days. Children playing making a noise is one thing but the screaming is something else and parents don't seem to tell them not to. I don't remember mine screening quite like they do today.

Well while trampoline are not fun to live next door too.
The noise a bouncy castle makes is horrid. And if they buy one of them nice summer day are ruined to the kids get too big .

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I think you should talk to them directly. Do the parents sleep at the front of the house, maybe they don’t hear the noise themselves?
There’s no way I’d allow my DS 9 yrs out to play at that time in the morning as it would annoy me too (although he’s normally asleep until about 8.30 as it’s the school holidays here).

I think initials are Darling Daughter,Darling GrandDaughter,Darling Son,Darling Hubby etc- but im a fairly new user so i may be wrong?BUT im afraid i dont know or see why theyre used when it seems daft & could just say " my daughter" or my son ,my hubby etc im sure theyre not all ' darlings' all of the time,i know mine arent! i dont know DDG sorry.

I think 6am is unreasonably early. My children and grandchildren would never be allowed to play in the garden before 9am. It's just not fair on the neighbours. Even then I ask them to keep the noise level down a bit on a Sunday morning.

Besides- if you spray springs with WD40 it still makes a squeaking noise as its the bouncing and the stretch of the springs which will still make a noise as its how its designed,to have 'give' in the springs.

Tough one.my neighbours on one side had a cockeral(as well as 2 or 3 hens)which crowed every morning when we first moved in- (6yrs ago)as soon as it was light(early- it was august! This went on for 6 weeks till i could stand it no longer i went& banged on her door to let her know& she got rid of cockeral! Of course your neighbours cant do that with kids so yeah you might have to cement relations with them first- but offering them WD40 might seem a bit patronising as theyl see this as maybe ' they cant solve their own problems' etc?& get their back up-is there any chance you could change bedrooms to opposite side of where they play out?(front maybe,if they play in the back?)you may hear it less till you can discuss it with them.my new neighbours who moved in recently on other side have young kids& a trampoline& i hear them- which seems earlyish on a weekend,but its not 6am so i let it go as im sure my 15yr old makes noise theyre not keen on when hes playing video games(his rooms connected to their wall) so making a compromise in my case-do your grandkids stay over at all?maybe you could do that& when theyre playing ball or whatever(early) pop your head over fence& say "oh im sorry if theyre disturbing you at this time ive tried warn them to be mindful of people still in bed etc"- THAT might give them the hint!

I too had Kids with trampoline issues. For them it was jumpimg high enough to see over the fence into my dining room! Fortunately they got fed up with the trampoline one day and stopped. Trampoline has now gone. Morale of story? Kids grow up eventually and go on to other things! Although in my case I am still trying!

It's worth checking out guidance about noise nuisance on www.gov.uk

The morning cut off with regard to "night" noise is 7.00am.

For the noise to count as a statutory nuisance it must either be injurous to health or unreasonably and substantially interfere with the use or enjoyment of a home or other premises.

It's doubtful noise from children playing on a squeaky trampoline would be reason for a complaint. It may interrupt sleep, get on nerves and feel unreasonable but it's unlikely to substantially interfere with enjoyment as the noise is likely to be irregular and transient. Compare say someone who lets a barking dog out into the garden at 6.00am every morning come rain or shine.

I agree with those who suggest a friendly word with the neighbours. Ask them to curtail the outdoor play until 7.00am earliest.

Whether trampoline noise

It is too early! Maybe they just don’t think. I like the WD40 suggestion. If you can talk over the fence do it then, if not go round. Otherwise it could go on for a long time. It’s only the beginning of July and children will want to be out sun or not. Good luck.

New neighbour? Take round a cake and a bottle of wine, and see if you can slide into conversation that your husband sleeps really badly and....

Offer to babysit?

6am is absolutely ridiculous. I think a friendly word with the parents would be in order.

If that doesn't help just go to their front door every morning when it starts and persistently ring their doorbell

It will soon stop

Grampie What would you recommend for shrieking kids ?

My GS is an avid trampoline user he is on his 3 rd trampoline but in a large garden and not early. The springs don't squeak but there is the rhythmic sound of the jumping.

I suspect the parents might be still in bed and just let the kids out for peace and quiet but maybe not.

I think you should say something nicely. The neighbours are not aware they are disturbing you so how can they put anything right. The squeaking must be awful any time of day so offering the wd40 is a helpful idea but you will still have the other noises so you could mention that in the conversation,

Very selfish people, but I find there are a lot of parents like this. I wouldn’t dream of letting my children out to play at that time of the day.
My BIL and SIL have had to move from their bungalow after 20 years. They had problems with their neighbours children. They are in their late 70 s and we were a bit concerned about the move but all was ok. They have moved into another bungalow in Colchester.

Six o clock in the morning is very early, but you could close the windows and buy a fan .
I think I wouldn’t say anything (to the neighbours anyway) as you have to live with the neighbours all year, not just for a few weeks in the summer. We used to have neighbours living across the road from us who had a young boy who used a heavy, full size football to bounce, and bounce, and bounce.......... It seemed to never stop, all Spring, Summer, Autumn, and any good weather days in Winter. All school holidays, all day and every day. All day long at weekends. Every morning before school, every afternoon after school. Unfortunately the family only went out occasionally, but it was bliss when they went on holiday. We endured it by ignoring, and closing windows. One day I came home from work with a terrible migraine, the bouncing of the ball was horrendous, making the migraine much worse. The child was regularly asked to stop by Mr M, but didn’t. We had to endure it I’m afraid, including enduring the migraine. Eventually the family moved, and the boy from up the road who used to play with the bouncing ball boy, grew up and moved out. So now peace reigns in our little Close again.
However, a little footnote, just one time Mr M tried to have a little word with the parent, about said ball bouncing, he was rewarded with a torrent of verbal abuse, plus almost unbelievably, the comment that had Mr M said something to the parent on my migraine day, the child would have been told to stop! On that day at least!

Agree* purplepoppies*

6am is early but as another poster said, perhaps they are all up and about at that time and it doesn't seem that early to them. It is unusual to have such a long run of fine weather so hopefully it would sort itself out in the next few weeks (if you can bear it that long), otherwise could you invite your neighbours in for a cup of tea/cake and just mention that the springs seem a bit squeaky and have they tried WD40 then offer to lend them a can as 'it seems to fix most things' Done in the right way I doubt they would be offended.

I am new to this page, forgive my hopelessness, but what do the DDG, DD abbreviations mean? I've worked out what SIL, DIL, mean but would appreciate a list from someone in the know!!

It could be worse. My cousin bought a house next door to teenagers who rode scrambler bikes round and round their garden, all day and into the evening. If I was in your situation I think I'd stay quiet. The trampolining will stop when they get bored.