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Children in a moving car with rear windows down

(38 Posts)
DJF2018 Thu 26-Jul-18 18:06:13

My daughter and her husband allow their 2 under-twelves to lower the rear windows of the car on journeys, even at high speeds. The children then rest their chins, hands or arms on the edge of the glass, or worse, dangle their hands or even lean out of the window. I think this is dangerous, and don't allow it in my car. But the children continue to do it when my daughter is driving, even though they all know it worries me. AIBU to worry about this? Maybe it isn't as dangerous as I fear?

rubytut Thu 26-Jul-18 18:18:53

I would see it as dangerous but as I have got older I see danger everywhere. As long as you keep with the "my car my rules" hopefully you will not have to see it too often.

SueDonim Thu 26-Jul-18 18:26:40

If they are properly restrained by the correct car seats then I don't understand how they are able to lean out of the windows.

pollyperkins Thu 26-Jul-18 18:26:54

Presumably tbey are strapped in so I don't see the problem unless they put arms or heads actually out of the car. That would be dangerous as well as distracting for other motorists.

Newquay Thu 26-Jul-18 18:29:03

I say exactly the same, nothing dangled out of the window-I do have to repeat myself several times. Nothing new there then.
Recently at DD's I saw lower window pushed up, sofa in front with drop to hard surface. I had to comment on it and hope they've taken it on board especially after hearing of sad death of young lad who fell through a window. I don't see danger everywhere but life experience teaches us what to look out for.
Actually DD2 recently spent evening with DD1 who said that said DD had said I was safety mad-I waited for reaction with bated breath but DD1 said she was glad to hear it-phew!

Melanieeastanglia Thu 26-Jul-18 18:30:37

If they are wearing seatbelts, how are they able to lean out of the windows? I feel certain a Police officer would stop a driver if he/she saw this.

Apart from the Police taking an interest, I would regard this sort of behaviour as dangerous.

ginny Thu 26-Jul-18 18:35:19

As others have said , how can they have heads out of the window if they are properly ( legally) restrained ?
Also most cars have air con. now. This will not work properly if the windows are open. Far cooler to use the air con.

pollyperkins Thu 26-Jul-18 18:36:44

No, not leaning out of the window - missed that! Very dangerous and how is it possible if strapped in seat?

Squiffy Thu 26-Jul-18 18:48:13

hmm ???

PECS Thu 26-Jul-18 19:25:36

Echoing others..if in car seats and properly strapped not sure how a head gets near enough the window. I do not allow it as I do not like the noise.

merlotgran Thu 26-Jul-18 19:33:58

And a hmm from me as well.

jenpax Thu 26-Jul-18 19:39:31

I too consider this very dangerous😳
I am also another who has been labelled safety mad by DD’s I am sure I am more aware of potential hazards for the DGC than I was with my own children 🤦🏼‍♀️

SueDonim Thu 26-Jul-18 19:49:03

Squiffy and Merlotgran I did have a hmm thought too, but decided to answer anyway. grin

rubytut Thu 26-Jul-18 20:01:19

If you are wearing a seat belt, and not in a childrens seat,you can easily lean forward to stick your head out. Just saying as that is the point a lot of people are making.

SueDonim Thu 26-Jul-18 20:51:08

Rubytut, British law states that children under 12yrs or 135cm must be in a child car seat so unless both children are exceptionally tall, they won't be using a seat belt on its own.

petra Thu 26-Jul-18 21:30:48

Somebody's bored grin

ContraryMary88 Thu 26-Jul-18 21:41:06

And it’s a 🤔 from me as well.

FlexibleFriend Thu 26-Jul-18 21:54:05

I wouldn't allow them to dangle anything out of the car but resting arms on top of the window presents no danger and they're old enough to understand that.

petra Thu 26-Jul-18 22:20:50

Do you think you could dream up something more realistic for us to debate.
With thanks.

Melanieeastanglia Thu 26-Jul-18 22:23:07

Petra - if you're right and this is somebody making up problems, I feel silly for having taken it seriously. It isn't the first time I've been fooled.

However, there are people silly enough to allow their children to behave like this.

Squiffy Thu 26-Jul-18 23:06:16

SueDo I think it's a challenge to see how long they last before being rumbled! I just feel miffed for all the kind GNs who don't realise.

MawBroon Thu 26-Jul-18 23:06:49

How is this possible if they are wearing seat belts?
If they choose to have the windows open and can reach an open window with a hand, so what?

yggdrasil Fri 27-Jul-18 07:51:52

Mawbroon: How is this possible if they are wearing seat belts? If they choose to have the windows open and can reach an open window with a hand, so what?

Seat belts or car seats. Exactly so. My grandson could open the little triangular window beside his seat from age 3. We always had to check when leaving the car that the little menace hadn't done it again :-)

There seems to be quite a few AIBU postings on Gransnet,
from people who haven't thought it through. The problem here isn't putting hands out the window, it is not having the children strapped in as the law requires.

harrigran Fri 27-Jul-18 08:13:24

The chauffeur gets annoyed when the little darlings lean out of the windows he says their shoe buckles scuff the leather seats.

Juggernaut Fri 27-Jul-18 14:24:31


pollyperkins Fri 27-Jul-18 14:37:40

Juggernaut your icons/emoticons have just come out as rectangles. This happens a lot on GN.anyone else have the same problem?

thecatgrandma Fri 27-Jul-18 16:24:48

This cannot be serious! If it is, get a life. If it’s not, think of something which really matters and is a feasible problem.🤯

Elegran Fri 27-Jul-18 16:44:02

Polly It is because they are in a format which your device can't display - not confined just to GN.

pollyperkins Fri 27-Jul-18 18:20:13

Ah yes, thanks, I can see them on my ipad but not my phone. But others come out ok.

MamaCaz Fri 27-Jul-18 18:42:47

Of course people sticking body parts out of car windows is a potentially dangerous - at the very least it could distract or mislead another driver, though admittedly that was much more likely in the days of hand signals, but at its worst, imagine what might happen if the arm or head went out as a vehicle was passing too close in the opposite direction, or even if the car on question passes too close to an obstacle on either side. You see wing mirrors lost that way fairly frequently, but at least thy are replaceable!

luzdoh Sat 28-Jul-18 10:19:26

DJF2018 I can't work out how they do this while wearing the correct safety constraints.

Leaning out of a window or putting your hand out could be dangerous and I would not allow it.

GabriellaG Sat 28-Jul-18 10:51:56

It's impossible to put your chin on the window edge if you are properly strapped into your car seat, much less put your head out. Maybe a hand but not a full arm.
They must be slipping their belts off their shoulders.
Mum needs to get a grip.

Catterygirl Sat 28-Jul-18 11:05:24

My dad was in hospital with a man who drove with his elbow on the open window. Another vehicle took his elbow off!

starbird Sat 28-Jul-18 11:08:12

There are probably people daft enough to allow this, though I don’t see how it is possible without compromising the use of the seat belt - if they slide it off the shoulder or whatever it will not save them from serious head injury in the event of a sudden stop or worse.

Dogs are often seen with their head out of a car window - but vets say that could make them prone to ear infections.

quizqueen Sat 28-Jul-18 12:02:10

No matter how good we think our own discipline is, you can't account for others' stupidity!

oldmom Sat 28-Jul-18 15:21:18

We always did this sort of stuff when we were kids. My father always said anything sticking out of the window was dangerous, and if we didn't listen, he would stop the car until we did.

However, if British law is only that children under 12 or 135 cms need to be in a booster seat, there are plenty of under 12s, especially girls, who would be well past that height limit. Many girls reach their adult height between 12-14, so may easily be 140 cms at 11. I've met boys who were well past that at 11 or 12, too.

It's easy enough to stick arms out of the window with a normal seatbelt, and even heads if you slip the shoulder strap off.

OP, you can have all the rules you want for your own car, but you can't tell your DD or grandchildren what to do in their car.

Grandmama Sat 28-Jul-18 18:26:38

Some years ago a child was killed because he had his head sticking out of a car window and the electric window was activated. He might have been decapitated.

harrigran Sun 29-Jul-18 19:36:55

Have just returned home from visiting family and passed a car where a child was leaning out of the back window with head resting on arms. I was horrified that the driver did not seem to notice or care, the child was clearly out of the seat belt. The child was not a nearside passenger.