Why is GN being used as a whipping post for Corbyn?

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I saw it Elegran

Oh, the post I was commenting on has gone, completely deleted, all trace of it gone not just deleted by Gransnet as against the rules. That makes my reply look rather odd. To clarify - it was to a spam post.

Is that what it is, oooooh I am so against betting ?

But I bet you don't know that Gransnet doesn't allow spam posts, and doesn't allow betting sites to post.

alchemilla what happened to your ‘mollis ‘ bit? Are you the same poster?

Jalima the OPs original question was why GN was used to bash Corbyn and whether it went beyond MN guidelines and those regulating free speech.

As I understand (despite interesting and aggravating diversions) the point was made that May, Boris, Tories generally were being equally bashed if not on AIBU then on the politics thread.

I must admit I can't wait until the party political conference when we will be able to comment properly on what the various parties actually put forward.

There are many people who use Gransnet to spread their own particular philosophy. If admiring one politician more or less than another politician is "beyond free speech and political debate and diversity, and has now entered the realms of something else" then a lot of posters are well into "something else" - and not all of them have been dissing JC.

think

Referring back to the OP, I thing that I had better not answer any more leading questions on the grounds that I could be accused of using GN as a platform for my own sinister reasons.

ps if you think that is daft, then no more so than the whole thread.

I don't have links to hand, sorry, and have to go out shortly.

However, I don't remember the second half of the 20th century as being that wonderful for all. Some privately rented housing was extremely sub-standard and tenants were frightened that they would be 'put out on the street'. The NHS didn't have such demands on it and in some cases was not that wonderful in our experience.

Strikes resulted in filthy streets, bodies left unburied, inconvenience to the general public on a daily basis. The Winter of Discontent resulted in the election of Margaret Thatcher.

People struggled on poor wages. We often had beggars knocking on our door looking for food too.
These 'golden eras' did not really exist.

Yes, things do need to improve and I hope they will when Labour comes to its senses, realises it should look to the future not the past and elects the right leader to take them forward.

There is plenty of evidence that homelessness and poverty are on the increase.
So surely that is why we need a change of government which so many feel will not be possible with the present leadership and backroom boys?

trisher, if I was a Tory I would say so, or wrote for the Daily Mail, as recently said. I am firmly in the centre left of the Labour Party.

Probably your memory is clouded by your present position
I'm not quite sure what you mean , trisher

Jalima1108 if you can post a link about that I woud be pleased to see it. There is plenty of evidence that homelessness and poverty are on the increase. Probably your memory is clouded by your present position. (I didn't say it was wonderful-just better)
Annie if the cap fits wear it.
I am not a communist, if I was I would be honest enough to say so and post things to support my beliefs.
Support from other posters does not indicate a lack f bias, quite the reverse.

You remember that in the dim distant past when we had proper services, no beggars on the streets and poor schoolchildren were properly fed.
I think that could be looking at the past through rose-tinted spectacles; it was not that wonderful as far as I remember.

Unfortunately trisher, I think that many people are frightened of what they see as the far left of the party and have memories of Hatton, Militant Tendency, strikes etc.
They do want better services but see Corbyn as quite incompetent and being controlled by others from behind the scenes.

They want to see a modern Labour Party which is fit for the future, not one which looks to the past.

I hope that is clear.

I have no hidden agenda, have been honest and open, hence this thread.

Well I have no doubt that some have a hidden agenda
I think the agenda of some of us is not hidden and is perfectly clear.

We want to see a more moderate, centre left, Labour party win the next General Election under a competent and intelligent leader.

Centre left Blairites , and I would call closet Tories.

Really? So it is no longer an insult to call far left Corbynites closet communists . That’s cleared that up.

Thank you to all who posted without bias

Elegran why do I think there is so much character assassination of Corbyn (because you can't call it criticism-that requires reasonable nd logical argument). Well I have no doubt that some have a hidden agenda and are Tories, others are what they describe as centre-left Blairites, and I would call closet Tories. They are for some reason frightened of left wing politicians, in spite of the fact that none of today's politicians are as far left as a Labour government once was. You remember thatin the dim distant past when we had proper services, no beggars on the streets and poor schoolchildren were properly fed.

Goodness me, what a lot of nasty posts. I did say early on that I thought I might be over-thinking this. Very early on.

Now I’m accused of being a ‘bully’

I get the message ladies. But perhaps you ought to examine your own posts too. Good bye.