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Spade or shovel?Light hearted.

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Yammy Fri 24-Mar-23 09:56:34

Do you say spade or shovel? I was contradicted by a know all the other day for saying shovel.
I would say a garden shovel,a coal shovel but a bucket and spade.
I shovel the coal and was actually shovelling moss when contradicted. I don't spade the coal or moss. So is the differential made when doing something manually?
I am a northerner and know the saying we always" Call a spade a shovel ". When do you?hmm

timetogo2016 Fri 24-Mar-23 10:07:05

I always thought that a spade was for gardening,a shovel was for building etc.

FannyCornforth Fri 24-Mar-23 10:11:10

I rarely have need to refer to either (insert snooty emoji) wink

FannyCornforth Fri 24-Mar-23 10:12:09

A shovel is deep, and a spade more flat

Blossoming Fri 24-Mar-23 10:17:05

Tempted to say I call a spade a spade grin

For me it depends on the shape. A spade is flat, e.g. a garden spade, whereas a shovel has curved edges, e.g. a coal shovel.

I wouldn’t dream of correcting someone else’s name for the things, how rude.

NotSpaghetti Fri 24-Mar-23 10:17:07

A spade is what I use in the garden (or on a beach!). I have a shovel too - last used for moving some hard-core. It's a rougher tool and as fanny says, deeper.

I call a spade a spade and a shovel a shovel. grin

NotSpaghetti Fri 24-Mar-23 10:21:46

What were you using for your shoveling Yammy?
I might well use a spade if I was removing moss off some flat surface and didn't have something easier.

I might then shovel it up with the same tool! grin ...but if there was s lot I might use a shovel...

midgey Fri 24-Mar-23 10:24:15

As everyone else has said …two different things!

NanaDana Fri 24-Mar-23 10:28:45

A spade has a flat blade, whilst a shovel has raised sides. So it's not a case of using different words for the same item. They are different items.

LadyGracie Fri 24-Mar-23 10:36:36

Spade.

eazybee Fri 24-Mar-23 10:38:04

A spade has a long handle and is used for digging, usually earth and heavy substances; a shovel has a short handle and is used for shovelling up coal, refuse. gravel etc.

Blondiescot Fri 24-Mar-23 10:53:16

FannyCornforth

A shovel is deep, and a spade more flat

Indeed. Different horses for different courses...

toscalily Fri 24-Mar-23 11:09:38

Well I'm quite likely to shovel up soil with a spade! smile

FannyCornforth Fri 24-Mar-23 11:15:08

Does a spade have a longer handle too, or is that optional?
A spade is for digging, I suppose; and a shovel for shovelling

(This thread is strangely compelling. We should have one like this every day.)

FannyCornforth Fri 24-Mar-23 11:16:09

Sorry, eazybee I’ve just almost said word for word what you said

Yammy Fri 24-Mar-23 11:17:21

NanaDana

A spade has a flat blade, whilst a shovel has raised sides. So it's not a case of using different words for the same item. They are different items.

So I was using a shovel it was one the builders left and better for getting under the moss.grin

midgey Fri 24-Mar-23 11:18:41

Yes, a shovel can have a long handle FannyC you are right! Digging would be hard work with a shovel but shovelling is tricky with a spade grin

Yammy Fri 24-Mar-23 11:19:43

FannyCornforth

I rarely have need to refer to either (insert snooty emoji) wink

One's servants shovel the sh.... do they Fanny.smile

FannyCornforth Fri 24-Mar-23 11:24:50

It’s ironic really Yammy, as MrC was a self employed builder for 40 odd years and we have every type of building based implement, tool, gadget, widget, and gizmo known to man.
We even have a blooming concrete mixer in the garden

pascal30 Fri 24-Mar-23 11:28:17

Spade for gardening..shovel for building work,

toscalily Fri 24-Mar-23 11:29:41

I like the idea of your blooming cement mixer FannyCornforth which particular blooms are they?

Llamedos13 Fri 24-Mar-23 11:36:20

I use a snow shovel ,never a snow spade!

IrishDancing Fri 24-Mar-23 11:40:35

Blossoming

Tempted to say I call a spade a spade grin

For me it depends on the shape. A spade is flat, e.g. a garden spade, whereas a shovel has curved edges, e.g. a coal shovel.

I wouldn’t dream of correcting someone else’s name for the things, how rude.

Hear hear!

Fleurpepper Fri 24-Mar-23 11:43:23

2 totally different tools. I have several spades for the garden, and shovels for other jobs, with short and long handles. And forks, with fork handles, ahahah.

Juliet27 Fri 24-Mar-23 11:47:48

I read recently someone was going to have their dog ‘spade’ !! Poor thing didn’t deserve that I’m sure 😳