Another echo for Nellie and Greatnan. I must have been a trial for my father as a teenager when I constantly argued that wars could always be avoided if people only talked to each other. He was a marine in WW2 and like most others of his generation didn't talk about the horrors he must have experienced. He would patiently explain to me, over and over, that it just isn't possible to negotiate with psychopaths like Hitler. He always told us he'd been lucky, and avoided the fighting. He was on the Mediterranean fleet, and said he'd arrived in various Greek islands, Tunisia, Alexandria and Italy just in time to miss any fighting. After he died, we found letters from the adult children of men he'd served with. These made clear he'd been involved in the battle of Sicily, where hand to hand fighting took place. The older I get, the more I admire those who served their country in this war. I was anti Vietnam, etc, and marched (futile) against the invasion of Iraq. The day before the vote in the HoC, I wrote to my MP to ask him to oppose any bombing of Syria. I wish we could use diplomacy effectively in every situation, we can't. I hope it works in the Syrian conflict though - so many people suffering and dying horrific deaths.