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LucyGransnet (GNHQ) Thu 10-Mar-16 15:04:41

My 7 months in a 3 generation house

Have you ever lived with three generations of your family? Would you? Leila Glen describes how moving in with her parents in law allowed her young family to get ahead - and how they avoided WWIII while they were staying...

Leila Glen

My 7 months in a 3 generation house

Posted on: Thu 10-Mar-16 15:04:41

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Have you lived in a three generation house? Would you?

7 months ago my 16 month old, my fiancé and I moved in with his parents. Now I know what you're thinking – am I mad? However with spiralling house prices, job-cuts and the increased cost of living - alongside most couples our age – we were finding it a struggle to make ends meet. Having that all-important boost has helped us immensely, and we're now in the process of looking for our own house; living as a '3G' family (3 generations under one roof) has been anything but a smooth ride, but it's definitely paid off!

Although we're all considerate people, things did get crowded, and yes, pretty heated at times. Through a bit of trial and error (and a rather memorable argument involving my mother in law and some waylaid shoes in the hallway) we quickly learnt that setting house rules and boundaries was necessary to ensure everyone understood what they could and couldn't do.

If you're thinking of taking in your parents/children/children-in-law whilst they save a bit of money to get themselves on the property ladder, then there are a few recurring themes/issues that came up when I was doing my time that I think would be helpful for anyone going through the '3G family' experience.

Household chores: Chores should be equally shared out between family members. In our case my mother in law loves to cook, and since it's her house, I leave her be. Then it's generally my fiancé and I on cleaning up duty. If everything is left to one person, it tends to trigger feelings of being taken for granted, leading to bad feeling and arguments.

Stress: Busy lives, hectic jobs, and kids to sort out – it's no wonder we all get stressed from time to time (or a whole lot of the time in my case). But just try to remember, your family members are generally there to support you, not actively contribute to your stress! So he didn't put the toilet seat down? Let it go…

Children: Now this is an especially tricky one. More often than not grandparents can't help but interfere or comment on the bringing up of their grandchildren. Yes – it can be maddening at times, but we just try to remember they're doing it out of love. Again, setting boundaries is key; work out to what extend grandparents are allowed to reprimand their grandchildren to avoid altercations.

Money: Finances should be discussed as early on as possible. Everyone's contribution to rent, groceries, bills and other outgoings need to be considered. We used sites such as www.moneyadviceservice.org.uk and www.moneysavingexpert.com to help us work out a fair and cost-effective allocation of money.

It may seem like these are small and insignificant considerations, but at the end of the day we were moving in to someone else's house, and didn't want to impose our way of life on then, rather embrace theirs.


Privacy: Sex is an essential part of a healthy functioning relationship, but when there are two couples in the house, and children running around, it's difficult to have any time with your partner. We have a system in our house whereby my mother and father in law will take our son out to allow me and my fiancé some privacy. They get to spend quality time with their grandson and we get time to ourselves – it's a win/win!

Consideration for others: Seemingly tiny little things such as television programme preference, seats at the table and music taste have all nearly started World War 3 in our household. My partner and I love watching comedies, whereas his parents are intent on watching the soaps every night and have a penchant for gritty dramas. We worked out a weekly timetable of who was allowed TV preference, and this quickly put a stop to any arguing over the remote.

Furthermore, borrowing without permission is likely to prickle someone's skin. Always, ALWAYS ask! Ensure you put things back where they belong too; my mother in law is a creature of habit and likes things to be 'just so' – I quickly learnt this about her and rather than mocking her OCD I respected it and made sure to put things back in exactly the right place. We all have our quirks and when living with a lot of other people it's important to recognise when something is important to them and act accordingly; a little consideration can go a long way!

Rules: Rules are imperative to a happy household. Once individual responsibilities are established, everyone is free to get on with their own things and no difficult, awkward conversations need to be had.

Can shoes be worn in the house? Are you allowed to eat food in the lounge? Whose responsibility is it to…? These were the sorts of questions that needed to be addressed within the first week of us moving in. It may seem like these are small and insignificant considerations, but at the end of the day we were moving in to someone else's house, and didn't want to impose our way of life on then, rather embrace theirs. Was it difficult at times? Of course it was! I'm not a neat freak and taking off my shoes as soon as I walk through the door doesn't come naturally to me, however I told myself it would only be for a few months and would be worth it in the end – and I was right.

Communication: You know that old saying – 'communication is key'? Well when it comes to living alongside others, it couldn't be truer.

Try using a family planner or calendar – this was one of the best pieces of advice we were given! It meant we knew who was in and out for the night, how many people to make dinner for, and who was looking after the baby. Plus, it meant none of us double booked nights out, or planned to have people over when the other couple wanted a quiet night in.

Tip: Sticky notes are a great way of communicating too. E.g. "We're out of milk, I'll pick some up on the way back from work" to prevent the same item being bought twice.

Designating shelves: There's nothing more frustrating than having prepared yourself meals to take to work, or made yourself an after-dinner sweet snack, and then finding it gone by the time you've got around to eating it. Or - the more common occurrence in our household – buying yourself some ingredients which you intend to bake with (e.g. eggs) and then finding your father in law has treated himself to a four egg omelette. Avoid disasters such as this by designating each person a shelf in the fridge and using 'do not touch' labels for food items which are off limits to everyone else!

Take turns: For my fiancé and I, laundry days were Mondays and Thursdays, whilst my mother and father in law usually did theirs at the weekends. This little understanding meant there were no arguments (and we all had clean clothes to wear…)

From my personal experience, sticking to all these rules and just being as considerate as possible will make living with your children and grandchildren under the same roof a whole lot easier. And remember – it's not forever; we've been able to save enough for a deposit on a house in just seven months!

Leila Glen writes for journalistic.org, a journalistic co-operative that assists new journalists to make their mark and get their work published.

By Leila Glen

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NoStrayGrey Sun 05-Jun-16 21:21:11

Our situation involved a Whole Year, of Us, Our Kids and Their Kids. It wasn't straightforward, it was about give & take from all of us. We all survived, and we do all still speak to each other!. There were no arguments/disagreements, because we all knew beforehand how much we needed to make it work. The little one's needed the most attention, so this was automatically shared between us, fairly. If we needed to stop the children from doing something, it was easy. We did it. If they needed to do it, they did it. We all sung from the same hymn sheet, and it all worked its way forward. When the year was up, they all moved out, to their new home and we helped with that, too. Once they were all settled, we still needed each other, just as much as before. Because we all love one another, and only want what's best.

pooohbear2811 Wed 25-May-16 11:21:20

My daughter came up for a two week holiday bringing with her my two adorable grandchildren, 4yrs and 18 months nine years ago and stayed for nine months and boy was it hard.Her partner told her while she was up here he did not want her back. I did not like the man and he did not treat her or the children nicely so I was not to saddened by it from that point of view.
The whole thing nearly brought hubby and I to divorce especially as hubby was working night shifts at the time and he is rather ocd on tidiness. While daughter lived in what could only be described as a skip with a roof. Nothing was ever put away or cleaned up and the kids just dropped what ever they had in their hand when they had finished with it. That may have been a toy, a piece of unfinished food or a carton of juice because that was what they were use to doing.
My daughter would make a meal and not clean up after them leaving everything lying at her backside and hubby would get up from sleeping to have to start.
We did have ground rules on the grandchildren - whoever gave them the telling off followed through, so if I caught them I would tell them off and nobody else would jump in as it was not far that 3 adults gave the same child a telling off for the same thing. This proved very difficult at times especially with the 4 yr old who in our opinion got away with blue murder when mum was around. I remember her one day throwing a major temper tantrum cos she was tired ( dont get me wrong I appreciated that she had been torn away from her home and her friends and everything she knew to be dumped in what was a strange place in the middle of nowhere) and was asked to get her pj's on and get ready for bed. She refused so her mum took her upstairs and told her again to get her pj's on and get in bed. from there she proceeded to throw EVERYTHING moveable in her room, books toys, clothes pillows etc etc down the stairs while yelling and refusing to do as she was told. I had to go out for a walk cos I personally had she been mine would have put a stop to the behaviour and shut the door on her so she could not throw it all down the stairs. In my opinion the 4 year old won cos she did not do what she was asked and spent over an hour yelling her head off.
Not an experience I would like to repeat but there was no choice at the time, Luckily we had a massive rented farmhouse so she got rooms on the top floor to herself so we all had some privacy.

GrandmaMoira Sun 22-May-16 15:21:50

My youngest has suggested I pool resources with him to buy a large family house out of London for him, his partner and her 5 children, 2 of whom are my grandchildren. We would each have a London property to sell. I currently have my 2 older sons living at home so I would give them early inheritance to get somewhere themselves but I'd still have some money left with only buying half a house away from London prices. My house needs a lot of work so I could move somewhere in good condition and avoid the hassle of renovation. The downside is whilst I have lots of issues with my current situation (not least my sons' behaviour), I don't know if I want to live with 5 kids.

granjura Sat 23-Apr-16 19:12:29

A huge difference between a few months or weeks- or for life- especially in old age when opting out again would be practically impossible. I've seen it again and again- including with people who have moved abroad together.

It can work really well- but what if is a massive IF...

I'd always ensure that I have a bolt hole and an option 'B' - even if temporarily to cool off. What if the children divorce, or if your child dies and you are left with a sil or dil who then want to re-marry. Once all the money from both sides is committed to that option, and the renovation, additions, etc- then you just can't pull out if things don't work out. Happened to one of my UK colleagues, and it was an absolute and total nightmare- with her stuck in the middle of a mother who became tyrannical and 2 teenagers in full rebellion, and a OH who had just had enough! Seen it too with a family who moved to FRance, in a rural isolated area with mother no longer able to drive- and she fell out with sil- it was dreadful.

So- tempting- but not for me. I love my independence too much- and there is no way I'd become the permanent baby-sitter, cleaner and cook. NO WAY. My daughters would never ever expect me to be either. Not natural- I'd say.

SueRJ Sat 23-Apr-16 16:57:28

When I was young my GF used to come for a few weeks every summer, so that my aunt who he lived with could have a break. He was cantankerous, always complaining, but as Mum said it was only for a short time.
Now I am a GM (widow) I have recently retired (67) and have moved house with my daughter, her partner and their daughter. We bought a big bungalow, 3 beds, large lounge, garage, large garden. We are having a 'granny annex' built, converting garage into bedroom, adding shower room, kitchen and conservatory for lounge. That will be mine, the rest of the house theirs. We have got along alright for the last 7 months while permissions sought and building started, a few more weeks to go. They work and do most of the cooking, I do some childcare (3 year old) and washing up, cleaning etc. I'm helping them in that I bought a house they could not afford to do, they will help me when I get older and decrepid. As she is my only child all of my money, house, etc. will go to her anyway. It works well for us.

adaunas Mon 18-Apr-16 10:22:02

This is way past the original post date but when one of my SIL, D and GS came to live with us while they looked for a house, it lasted for about a year with 2 main rules. One from us: If you want to row, go for a walk while you do it , and one from them: please don't use gravy granules, they are SO unhealthy.
Despite that, I'd avoid it if I could.

Newquay Fri 08-Apr-16 08:24:53

When items are deleted can we be told WHICH rules have been broken? It's so intriguing?

Newquay Fri 08-Apr-16 08:24:08

I grew up in a 3G family in Grandad's rented house as, I understand, housing was difficult after the war and he was living alone. So we were there til he died when I was about 12.
It was not easy in a two up two down slum. Mum and Dad both worked, while they were out Dad's sisters would spend all day at our house creating dishes, not doing anything to help. I recall coming in from school emptying Grandad's chamber pot (I recall having to be careful coming downstairs in case I spilled it)-yuk!
Then I would have a go at dishes. How my parents managed I cannot begin to imagine. We were rehoused when I was 16 and went from paying 8 shillings a week rent to £12 and had to then find bus fares for us all too. Really tough days.
Grandad wasn't easy to live with but I don't suppose my Mum was either, harassed tired thing she was!
Dad died young (59) so my sister and I looked after Mum and tried to make up in her old age for the hardship she had suffered. She LOVED staying with us and LOVED her DGC which Dad never even saw.?

Skynnylynny Thu 07-Apr-16 13:00:45

I was brought up in a 3G household - Grandma, Mum and me - Dad was in the army. Gran lived with us until her death in the 60s, even after Dad came home. When I was first married I lived at my parents home until we could afford our own. Now I'm in my 70s and still in a 3G home as my youngest daughter and her son live with me after she and her partner broke up.
Have never had rules about who does what, each person does what they can, as and when. Like all families there were and are occasional fallouts but nothing that can't be solved with good communication. 3G families are not new and will probably go on forever in some form.

Bluecat Tue 29-Mar-16 16:09:46

I've spent much of my life in a 3 generation household.

When I was little, my grandparents lived with us. ("Us" being me, my big sister and our parents.) This continued till my grandmother died when I was in my teens.

My widowed mum lived with me, my husband and our two daughters for the last 7 years of her life, when her health was too poor for her to live independently. I still miss her every day.

Our younger daughter and her partner have lived with us for the past 10 years, and have daughters of their own aged 6 and 4. Hopefully, this arrangement will continue. It helped them when they could not afford their own home and now, as we get older, they are committed to helping us.

I wouldn't say it has always been easy. My husband is inclined to impose his own rules on everyone, regardless of generation. (He would be just the same if he only lived with me!) This resulted in occasional clashes with my mum, and now with DD and/or SiL, which can be awkward but eventually get sorted out. The rest of us tend to rub along together okay - a bit of give and take goes a long way.

One of the biggest benefits of the present situation is having the DGDs around every day. I love to spend time with them and I don't mind being the resident babysitter!

seasider Sun 20-Mar-16 16:24:41

DSS lived with us from age 18. His girlfriend came for one night and ended up staying 3 years ! They moved into a flat but they were unable to save a deposit for a house do we invited them back. We made their room into almost a bedsit with a telly and sofa so we could spend time apart. I cooked most of the evening meals so insisted they let me know if they were going out but things were generally quite fluid. They saved quickly (maybe to get away!!)and now own their own home .

oznan Fri 18-Mar-16 13:42:13

I was brought up in a 4 generation family,from my brother and me to our wonderful great-grandmother.It was an average semi with 3 bedrooms and 2 reception rooms.
It was the happiest time of my life!

Maggiemaybe Fri 18-Mar-16 08:09:25

grin I wish, grannylynn65! We've a bog standard end terrace with only the one "reception" room. It was cosy when we brought up our 3 children and again when the DS, DDIL and DGS1 come to stay for 7 months. That's how I like it. smile

grannylyn65 Thu 17-Mar-16 07:49:24

Whew, what a relief, was picturing vast houses with dozens of rooms and, a tweeny of course!!

WilmaKnickersfit Thu 17-Mar-16 01:26:00

I live in a teeny house too. I remember years ago my Mum saying she thought the reason why we hadn't moved to a bigger place was so she couldn't live with us! It wasn't true, but it was one of the advantages of our little house. grin

wot Wed 16-Mar-16 22:31:25

I sometimes think I'd like to live with a big family but maybe it can be irritating in real life.

wot Wed 16-Mar-16 22:29:47

I live in a teeny weeny house too, grannylyn!

Wendysue Wed 16-Mar-16 21:28:07

Good question, grannlyn! Space has so much to do with it, IMO!

grannylyn65 Wed 16-Mar-16 17:12:15

Am I the only one living in a teeny house?

Wendysue Wed 16-Mar-16 10:17:05

It's great to hear of so many positive experiences, but I'm another one who isn't totally buying the "no rules" claim. I suspect there are often a lot of unspoken rules. Even the comments about "the men" doing the "yardwork" and "the women" doing things "in the house" reflect an unspoken set of rules about of how work is divided up. In fact, I agree with the poster who said that one of the reasons we may need more rules today is that we don't make automatic assumptions about "men's work" and "women's work."

I'm also with the poster who wondered how much kids really know about what "rules" were worked out or not. In many cases, kids wouldn't be privvy to these discussions.

That being said, I think these can be drawbacks to setting up definite rules and division of labor. Mostly cuz things don't always work quite the way people think they're going to. IMO, some families need to do some advance planning to make 3G living workable and others don't. But everyone needs to realize, I believe, that some decisions will need to change and some routines be adjusted, as time goes on.

Also, I think if the parents and GPs have vastly different visions of how things will be, this needs to be addressed. For example, maybe the parents assume that the GPs will be willing to babysit at the drop of a hat, however often, but the GPs don't want to do it more than once a week and expect to be asked in advance. In cases like that, there has to be some discussion and hopefully, some compromise.

When I was a child, my MGM lived with us for a while. Overall, I would say it was a positive experience and I enjoyed and grew very close to MGM. However, she and my DF (dear father) didn't always get along and there were one or two HUGE arguments between them, which, in turn, created tension between my parents. So (sigh) I know that even in some (not saying all) "positive" 3G experiences, there are some seriously negative parts. Personally, I would avoid it.

WilmaKnickersfit Mon 14-Mar-16 21:00:52

I think the GPs are supposed to have sex when the others are out during the day. wink

kittylester Mon 14-Mar-16 19:36:03

We have had various of our children and their families living us for various reasons and for varying lengths of time. Apart from DD3 setting up a wedding cake making business which entailed an awful lot of sugar, I would say it has been a really positive experience. Luckily, our house is large enough for anyone wanting to have sex to do so without the rest of the household being aware. grin

mollie Mon 14-Mar-16 12:32:09

We've got several neighbouring houses with three generational households and they've been doing it for years! I used to think it meant having granny sitting in the corner of the front room but these days it's more likely to mean adult children's off-spring being accommodated. I couldn't do it either way but it works for many and good luck to them!

The blog was a bit condescending - yes, what about the grandparents wanting a bit of privacy? - but never mind. We get the point...

nettyandmasey Sat 12-Mar-16 10:10:44

I had my daughter her partner and premature baby stay with me over the summer, while they waited to be rehoused. With some trepidation! However, it was a wonderful experience and I think we all enjoyed it. I stood back with care of baby while being there for advice if needed. Plus my relationship with my daughter strengthened. It was fractious before she left home at 19. But at 26 completely different. I can honestly say I only had one day when I wanted to scream!!

PamSJ1 Sat 12-Mar-16 08:22:27

I was brought up in a 3 generation house. My mum's dad died the year before my mum and dad married and they moved into her house. We all lived together with my younger sister until I moved away to train as a nurse. I moved back for a short while when that didn't work out until I moved into my own house before I got married. My mum worked and my nana looked after us when we weren't at school. She was an incredible cook and did everything in the house. My nana also worked as a cleaner and would take us with her during the school holidays. We were all very close. When I had my children she came to stay to help look after them even in her 80s (and after a heart attack). Living together can be a very positive experience but you need to be flexible.
My daughter and her boyfriend are now living with me and my husband. I suspect that they will stay after they get married at least for a while even if they have children. Finances aside, my daughter is in no rush to move out because of her dad's health. I appreciate them being here but the lack of space can sometimes be an issue.