Chavs: the demonization of the working class

The book, BTW, sounds like a very worthy read.

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I like these kind of diversions.

Claws to the front girls. [girls]

Anagram I absolutely love that Jim hacker quote! I do agree about press manipulation. When I worked for Social Security back in the early 70s in Yorkshre I volunteered to go to Wath on Dearne to be part of the team that paid benefits to any needy families of striking miners. I saw the miners' recent payslips all day - one about every 10 minutes so i knew exactly what sort of pay they were getting. Then a tabloid - can't remember which - Sun or Mirror or something - ran a front page article decrying the strike because they earned - well, the quoted figure was half as much again as they actually earned.

I was so appalled that I went to their union rep and asked what was going on. He said look in page 6 tomorrow. Sure enough there was a retraction showing the true figure, so small and hidden I could hardly find it. even knowing it was there.

The miners lost in the end.

I have mistrusted the right wing press, well, all the press, ever since.

Back to the thread title - looks interesting - think I'll order it for my kindle.

THe beauty of my humour is that I am funny , and not at all unkind , because I have no hang ups

I told you my humour gets me into trouble - it's not often funny.

grrrrany , you are a fine one to talk Tell it like it is sweetpea

xxx to you gals

Agree with you, grrranny. This is not conforming to the etiquette as far as I can tell nor is it the way we normally talk to one another on these forums.

Personal attacks are unwarranted. Please let's keep to the etiquette of the forum

Nonu were you being funny then because I thought you were being nasty - to whoever. I often forget that people don't get my humour when I post and constantly get into trouble. Was that the case with your post?

For Jeni sorry , I didn"t say say in previous post x

Nonu what was that about? Yes we crossed topics a bit but that does happen from time to time. Do not think that the tone of your post was conforming to the ettiquette or have I misunderstood you.

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Absolutly right grrranny.. class pervades all aspects of society in all sorts of ways..often quite subtly too!

Jamaica just won mens 4x4 - shush jeni about the chapter meeting in case we are being tracked in some way but yes - scarf is purple, green and white - march march - I am a wee bit surprised that no one else has read the book - I would urge people to do so even if they don't agree with the politics as it will be interesting (not being callous here) to see how the media report Tia's death and the book was most illuminating about the way these tragedies are perceived depending upon the class (no apology for using the word) of the victim, perpetrator, family and wider community.

Ooer midlands chapter of Hells grannies! Purple white and green!

March march swing ye along!(suffragettes, that's us!)

I've got a purple fascinator!

I wonder if the railway police know we're converging on Birmingham ?

it isn't available on Kindle, so not for immediate reading!

grrranny, sorry we've got a bit off-track, but no one but you has actually read the book yet!

Err - uhm - so what do people think of the book? Went out, spent too much, bought leather jacket (well I really liked it), a tartan grip, and a scarf in MIdlands GN chaper colours, came home, had then microwaved yesterday's left over dinner whilst watching Mo and all this has happened on GN. I am a slouch.

Worked on a magazine as picture editor for many years and found the attitudes of the editor a pain - always looking for an "angle" rather than just presenting the facts; latching onto a tragedy as if it were a gift from the gods. Journalists get into a very strange mindset and lose the ability to see that people do not necessarily need drama and exaggeration - they would quite like the facts, lucidly expressed.
I remember being at university during the sit-ins of the late 60s and the stuff that appeared on the news bore absolutely no relation to the facts. It was an eye-opener for my innocent mind!

nanaej,

anagram So true! Except for Morning Star readers..we just want the people to run the country!

Pressed post too soon. Often, people are called probation officers, or ex POs, when they are no such thing. Workers who are unqualified have been called POs by the press, and ex-workers are often ex for good reason.

I really don't like the " poseur tabloids" like "The Dailt Mail"and "Express", but equally am irritated by the smugness of "The Telegraph. "The Times" is all I can manage but they are all biassed, aren't they?