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Esspee Fri 05-Mar-21 10:04:44

GCHQ are advertising jobs for ethnic minority background or women only.
Should this be allowed?

grandmajet Fri 05-Mar-21 10:05:37

No

Smileless2012 Fri 05-Mar-21 10:06:49

No it's 'positive discrimination' and all discrimination is wrong.

Grannybags Fri 05-Mar-21 10:14:53

No definitely not

Anniebach Fri 05-Mar-21 10:16:04

No

Lexisgranny Fri 05-Mar-21 10:16:55

No, this is discrimination.

Pantglas2 Fri 05-Mar-21 10:17:09

Another no.

Galaxy Fri 05-Mar-21 10:17:18

No they are not. It's a registration of interest. The job will be advertised to all.

Aveline Fri 05-Mar-21 10:18:25

No from me!

Peasblossom Fri 05-Mar-21 10:19:09

Have you got a link or more info espee?

I’ve just googled GCHQ jobs and can’t find this on any of them?

Ilovecheese Fri 05-Mar-21 10:20:57

So is this true or not?

Blossoming Fri 05-Mar-21 10:27:38

It’s in the Fail. Apparently they asked for people from minorities to register their interest in working for GCHQ. Jobs were open to all applicants. So it’s not true and perfectly legal.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9325775/GCHQ-advertises-job-department-people-ethnic-minority-background-women.html

Alegrias1 Fri 05-Mar-21 10:30:12

Shall we play a game? Let's guess which newspaper has made this story up.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9325775/GCHQ-advertises-job-department-people-ethnic-minority-background-women.html

Alegrias1 Fri 05-Mar-21 10:31:55

Crossed post Blossoming smile

timetogo2016 Fri 05-Mar-21 10:32:44

And another NO.

Redhead56 Fri 05-Mar-21 10:37:19

A job was advertised at a private school twenty five years ago. I applied for an interview I was told the vacancy was for ethnic minorities only. Blatant absolute discrimination there is no other to put it.

Ilovecheese Fri 05-Mar-21 10:38:41

So this is not true

Peasblossom Fri 05-Mar-21 10:39:23

It’s Daily Mail kind of truth😬

grannysyb Fri 05-Mar-21 11:11:04

"Alternative truth" perhaps?😄

Katie59 Fri 05-Mar-21 11:13:17

Discrimination of any kind is bad BUT if I were running an organization where a lot of clients were ethnic minorities I would want some staff reflecting the clients diversity. Mainly because it makes the clients more comfortable, comfortable clients equals more business.

Blossoming Fri 05-Mar-21 11:26:26

Crossed posts

Great minds Alegrias1

simtib Fri 05-Mar-21 11:36:05

Yes the Daily Mail lept at the oppurtunity but the advert did exist and GCHQ quickly used a loophole to avoid legal action by saying it was a register of interest not a job advert.

All segregation and discrimination is wrong no matter what form it takes or what direction it is in.

eazybee Fri 05-Mar-21 11:43:00

The Daily Telegraph has a byline for an article about LNer which is launching a move 'to put more women in the driving seat with campaign',
the byline says: 'LNER launches campaign to persuade female and minority ethnic entrants to pursue career in industry'.
The article describes how a rail company plans to use Facebook showcasing female train drivers in a bid to encourage more women to take up the job, and features Becky Brown, a driver for LNER launching the company's initiative to pursue a career in the industry.
It quotes research showing that in 2007 only 7% of applicants for driver roles were women, increased to 17% by 2020, and they are aiming for 40% by 2025.
It will also be targeting black, Asian and minority ethnic candidates in specific location.
The main aim is to persuade women into a job they do not normally consider.

Seems reasonable to me.

eazybee Fri 05-Mar-21 11:46:03

locations.
It does not say 'only', so as long as all applicants are considered, that is fair.

Alegrias1 Fri 05-Mar-21 11:47:13

Oh for goodness sake.

Organisations are perfectly entitled to say that they are welcoming enquiries from groups of people who are under-represented in that organisation. Its a recognised way of trying to widen the range of people who apply for posts. I've done it myself. (Not at GCHQ, in case anyone is wondering!)

It doesn't mean that the jobs are ring fenced for any particular kind of people. No discrimination here, despite what the DM would have you believe. Organisations have to be squeaky clean about how they offer jobs.