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Hang on, corona virus isn't ALL bad...

(36 Posts)
GagaJo Sat 14-Mar-20 19:08:26

Or am I being unfair? Has he seen Bozza lately?

Calendargirl Sat 14-Mar-20 20:27:27

It’s taken all the flak off H&M, well, for the time being anyway.

Who was it in the past talked about a good time to bury bad news.....?

SueDonim Sat 14-Mar-20 20:43:38

Your post reminds me of the Spitting Image sketch, The President’s Brain is Missing! grin

POGS Sat 14-Mar-20 20:49:42


Are you saying you would be happy if Trump and Boris Johnson get Corona Virus?

Is that the message behind your OP?

SirChenjin Sat 14-Mar-20 20:49:48

No Gaga, you’re not being unfair - quite a few people thinking along the same lines I’m sure!

Missfoodlove Sat 14-Mar-20 20:50:51

Gone too far.

Oopsadaisy3 Sat 14-Mar-20 21:38:44

Not quite sure what this post is about.

You surely aren’t suggesting it would be a good thing if they get the Virus?

I would think that GNers would be better than that.

Hetty58 Sat 14-Mar-20 21:45:25

Well he was lucky getting a test (unlike us) wasn't he? I could say it isn't all bad as absolutely anyone can catch it, after all. There's no riches or privilege that will guarantee to keep it at bay.

Jane10 Sat 14-Mar-20 22:02:03

I'd like to see Trump self isolate for, say, 20 years.

eazybee Sat 14-Mar-20 22:24:25

Not remotely funny.

BradfordLass73 Sun 15-Mar-20 01:26:19

"The Virus"? It's influenza, not the Black Death.

Wuhan Province, where it all began is called "China's Thoroughfare" it has 19 million residents and an ever-shifting visiting-trading population.

Of those 19 million, just over 840 people have actually died from The Virus there.
Some were elderly, malnourished and with poor opportunities for the kind of hygiene we in the West take for granted.

Multi-thousands have coughed and sneezed their way to a full recovery - as people do with influenza every single year.

World-wide, people are now so scared that companies are closing and laying people off. This is political, they dare not stay open in the face of mass lunacy.

This time, the difference is, that as a result of media-driven insanity, this virus has been able to make a LOT of people, a LOT of money. The pharmaceutical companies, who buy major air and press time, must be crowing.

I've just looked at some health statistics for the UK.

Annually, there are 165,000 deaths from cancer (that's 450 souls per day); 26,610 people killed or seriously injured on the road each year

My friend in New York is now refusing to leave the house because she is so scared and may stay off work for 3 months ! She has a responsible, well-paid job in a government agency.

To date, there have been 58 deaths put down to Covid-19 in the whole of the USA

Doesn't anyone but me think this is totally crazy?

janipat Sun 15-Mar-20 01:37:32

dons tin hat and full body armour and then feebly applauds BradfordLass73 for having the guts to post her opinion smile

sharon103 Sun 15-Mar-20 02:01:29

Quoting BradfordLass
"This time, the difference is, that as a result of media-driven insanity, this virus has been able to make a LOT of people, a LOT of money. The pharmaceutical companies, who buy major air and press time, must be crowing."

I totally agree.
On another post I commented on earlier, sellers on ebay are selling toilet rolls, hand sanitiser for absurd prices and people are paying for them. It's madness. I'd rather wipe my a**e on my socks than pay £100 nearly for 24 toilet rolls. Not all as greedy as that I'll admit.
I do think that it's more than the common flu though.

Txquiltz Sun 15-Mar-20 03:59:07

I'm with Bradford Lass and Sharon 103. Hype and panic kill. Hype and panic cause otherwise good people to become vicious. Hoarding from neighbors? We need to pool our resources and common sense.

Cunco Sun 15-Mar-20 08:42:54

After cancelling so many flights, it did occur to me that the environmental lobby might be nominating Donald Trump for a Nobel Prize.

loopyloo Sun 15-Mar-20 08:46:28

Yes and Isis have told their terrorists to avoid Europe!

Greymar Sun 15-Mar-20 08:51:56

In the UK in 2018, there were 6,507 deaths by suicide (a rate of 11.2 deaths per 100,000 people).

Cunco Sun 15-Mar-20 08:59:36

Txquiltz I agree we need to keep a perspective, common sense and try to pull together rather than apart.

I don't think that, as yet, there are widespread shortages of essentials despite there being empty shelves in some shops. I would expect those empty shelves to be re-stocked.

I doubt whether many companies are 'crowing' over COVID-19. The number who might gain through rising demand in a few product lines will be dwarfed by the threat of cut backs or extinction in others. There is very real concern that the measures taken worldwide will create an economic recession benefitting nobody.

If the drug companies are celebrating, it does not seem to be reflected in GSK's share price, down 20% in the last 3 months.

Jane10 Sun 15-Mar-20 09:18:42

I didn't think there were any drugs for Corona virus.

M0nica Sun 15-Mar-20 09:25:22

Bradfordlass I am in total agreement with you, although I would point out that CV is not flu.

So far deaths have been confined mainly to the old and ill, a group that are by definition, likely to die within the forseeable future of almost anything. That is not meant to sound callous, but I think all of us can look back at our families and see in how many cases that the death of someone old and frail has been the result of them picking up some kind of infection, usually we do not no what or from where. This certainly applies to my own father, his brother and several others I know. Some of those who have died, would have died within the next couple of weeks of something else anyway, probably another infection.

What I am trying to say is, that for the majority of the population, including older people, this illness may be unpleasant, but it is not serious or fatal. We need to do all we can to protect those whose health is really threatened by this and it is to do this by managing its peak

In every crisis, one person/companies loss is other companies/persons profits.

Missfoodlove Sun 15-Mar-20 09:34:17

In the U.K. 70% of the population are vaccinated against flu!
The most vulnerable are called up for free flu jabs.
So the deaths are among the remaining
30%, this is not such a good statistic.

Flu and Coronavirus are two completely different viruses.
We should not compare as it lulls people in to a false sense of security.

M0nica Sun 15-Mar-20 10:19:43

Calling people up for flu jabs and having them are two different things and it could be argued that those most at risk may be among those not having them.

growstuff Sun 15-Mar-20 10:33:52

It's only the 65+ age group which has a 70% take up for the flu jab. It's much lower (around 45%) for other at risk groups and some people aren't eligible for NHS flu jabs.

Missfoodlove Sun 15-Mar-20 10:36:54

This is the latest data, the take up in the U.K. is on target.

Seasonal data collection runs from September to February, and so far in 2019-20 (between 1 September 2019 and 31 December 2019), uptake has reached 70.6%.

Statistics from Nuffield Health

growstuff Sun 15-Mar-20 10:40:01

What's the source of your data? The government doesn't appear to agree with you.