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Anyone who has had the vaccine and immunosuppressed?

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Marydoll Tue 19-Jan-21 15:13:08

I am deemed extremely clinically vulnerable, due to multiple comorbidities and also immunosuppressed, as a result of injecting biologics. I also have a number of severe allergies to medication into the bargain.
I wondered if anyone in this position has had the vaccine yet.
I am finding it difficult to get any advice from my clinicians, in fact I'm finding it difficult to get anyone to return my call at all!

NannaLyn Mon 01-Feb-21 00:26:34

Callistemon

If you look on sps.nhs.uk one of the sections is:

"Advising individuals with allergies on their suitability for Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine"

(It also gives advice on the AZ vaccine too.)

When I had my vaccination, I wrongly assumed they would be using the Pfizer vaccine because that it what they gave my husband a few days before. We weren't told which vaccine it was until after we had had it!

When I enquired about allergies, they were only concerned if the allergy had caused the individual to suffer an anaphylactic shock.

Good luck - I hope you don't have a wasted journey. shamrock

Callistemon Sun 31-Jan-21 21:26:17

It's a long way to go early in the morning to be told 'No, sorry'!

PECS Sun 31-Jan-21 20:02:00

The have a list of questions that they seemed to be asking everyone... you will have a chance to say you have had allergic reactions... just annoying if they don't have the option of the AstraXeneca ..

Callistemon Sun 31-Jan-21 19:18:52

I'm rather concerned after reading this as I'm allergic to Ciprofloxacin? and am due to have, I assume, the Pfizer vaccine next week.
The first time I had Ciprofloxacin I was in hospital, thank goodness, as I had an immediate and alarming reaction.

Marydoll Sun 31-Jan-21 19:11:37

I am allergic to those too. After my hysterectomy, I spent an extra week in hospital after recieving Metronidazole / Flagyl (despite telling them I was allergic to it)
This puts a different slant on things. Thanks for that info PECS. This is becoming so complicated.

PECS Sun 31-Jan-21 19:07:52

I was advised to have the AstraXeneca vaccine due to my allergic reaction to metronidazole & cephalexin. I learned this at the Vax centre. They asked questions about my general health including allergies. The lead practitioner said they were geared up for 'reactions' but her advice was to go to the clinic where they were using AstraXeneca next week.
My brother, who had a kidney transplant in November, so is definitely immunosuppressed due to anti rejection drugs, had the Pfizer jab with no ill effects at all.

Marydoll Sun 31-Jan-21 18:44:34

I was put on Hydroxychloriquine when it first came out and the regulations concerning it were very strict, as it was a new drug. However, over the years the onitoring requirements weren't as rigorous.
I was taken off it by my cardiologist two years ago, as not suitable for people with my heart problem.
As well as biologics, I take the highest dose of Sulfasalzine. People with lung problems usually can't have Methotrexate either.

NannaLyn Sun 31-Jan-21 17:25:55

twinnytwin

Glad you had your vaccination. Strange, isn't it, I was recommended to have the Pfizer vaccine and was given the AZ one and you were recommended the opposite! Still, as I think we were both told, the vaccine that you can get etc.

I think I would do the same as you regarding the Methotrexate, especially as you only seem to have it once a week.

I'm lucky that I haven't had any adverse effects with the HCQ. My Rheumatologist referred me to the Retinal Clinic at the Eye hospital for 6 monthly check ups because of the HCQ but at the last clinic just before Christmas, the Retinal Consultant and her team ran loads of tests and scans on my eyes and have now said I don't need to see them for 2 years, unless I have any problems with my eyes.

Stay safe and thanks for all the info.

twinnytwin Sun 31-Jan-21 17:12:06

NannaLyn, they started me off with Hydroxychloroquine but it made me very unwell. Hence they put me on Methotrexate. I've been on it for around 10 years. If I spot that advice on the website alters, I'll flag it up on this thread.

I had my vaccine yesterday afternoon - the Pfizer one unfortunately as the Oxford was recommended for me, but needs must. I'm not complaining. Naughty I know, but I've decided to miss my weekly Methotrexate dose for a couple of weeks to allow my immune system to build up to hopefully make the most of the vaccine. If I had an infection and was put on antibiotics, the advice is to stop Methotrexate, so hopefully it will be okay.

Lexisgranny Sat 30-Jan-21 14:52:04

Marydoll. Just returned from vaccination. It was the AstraZeneca. The accompanying leaflet says “no data are currently available in individuals with a weakened immune system, or who are taking chronic treatment that suppresses or prevents immune responses”. Rather a clunky sentence, but really nothing that we didn’t know already. Nurse giving the injection she specifically pointed this out.

Marydoll Sat 30-Jan-21 13:07:12

Thanks to all who have contributed to this thread. it's good to support each other.

There is message on our RA helpline saying that staff are swamped with phone calls and it can take a week to get back. The specialist nurse got back to me in a day, despite being very short staffed.
I too have often relied on the consultant's secretary, when I couldn't contact anyone. She has been known to run along the corrider to the ward to get me advice.

I was told yesterday to take whatever vaccine is offered, as my recent cardiac episode has rendered me even more vulnerable than I was. (I thought it couldn't get any worse!) and that the Versus Arthritis website have lots of valuable information.

My husband will get his vaccination done at a local hub on Thursday, but my RA specialist told me yesterday that they are about to send out appointments to shielders in Scotland this coming week.

We will get through this!

NannaLyn Sat 30-Jan-21 12:53:39

twinnytwin

Thanks for the link - Very interesting article. As my Haematology Pharmacist said, the recommendations seem to change on a daily basis for us immunocompromised people.

I had a dose of methotrexate with my 4 weekly chemo regime (Bendamustine and Obinutuzumab) for my Follicular Lymphoma. I'm on Hydroxychloroquine for my Sjogren's.

I had my last chemo cycle (of six) in November but am due to start Obinutuzumab Maintenance Therapy on 9 Feb. I need to talk to my Haematologist about the pros and cons of delaying the start of this treatment until after my second Covid vaccination because my neutrophil levels are so low. This Maintenance Therapy is given every 2 months for 2 years.

Good luck with your vaccination. I've had no after effects since my AZ jab last Thursday.

Lexisgranny Sat 30-Jan-21 12:47:33

Marydoll I think we have discussed before that we have similar long term health conditions, I am going for my vaccination this afternoon and will post again later.

(For reasons best known to our local health board, my husband received notification of his appointment on the same day that I received mine, but his was for next week at a vaccination centre).

twinnytwin Sat 30-Jan-21 12:26:16

I have Primary Sjogrens Syndrome and have been on Methotrexate for a very long time. My consultant and specialist nurses are fantastic.
A nurse called me as I emailed with a number of questions regarding the vaccine. She told me that the Oxford vaccine is best for me, but take whichever is offered. I asked whether to stop Methotrexate for a short time prior to vaccination to allow my immune system to recover somewhat and she told me the current advice is not to do this. However, interestingly, data is being collected as to whether this will be recommended in the future and she gave me the following website which is updated regularly for clinicians to keep abreast of findings.
This is htpp:/arma.uk.net/covid-19-vaccination-and-msk.

I'm off for my vaccination in an hours time. I'll still have to continue to shield, but it gives me hope that should I catch it, there wont be a poor outcome.

NannaLyn Sat 30-Jan-21 12:09:15

Marydoll

Glad to hear about your blood test results.

I've had problems with my GP practice. It is now part of a much larger group of surgeries and at the moment there are 8 doctors on maternity leave, including my two preferred doctors who are absolutely brilliant. (My original named GP spent about 10 years denying I had Sjogren's. Arrogant man! )

I spoke to different GP last week concerning my vaccination and she promised to look into my query and get back to me before my vaccination last Thursday. Needless to say she didn't. Will ask to speak to a different doctor next time.

I have managed to change the telephone consultation with my Haematologist next Friday to a face to face, as suggested by the Haematology pharmacist. I hope she will be able to put my mind at ease.

Take care and stay safe. flowers

NannaLyn Sat 30-Jan-21 11:48:47

Nanna58

Do you have a named Rheumatology Consultant? If so, may I suggest you telephone his/her Secretary and have a word with them. I have done this in the past and found them really helpful.

Good luck!

Nanna58 Sat 30-Jan-21 11:37:17

Sympathies to you all ladies, I know how you feel , for the last 10 months every call to my Rheumatology dept has been an answer phone message saying I shall be called back - I haven’t , not once

Marydoll Sat 30-Jan-21 11:30:37

Good idea Daddima. I don't trust my surgery anymore, although I previously had a great relationship with my GP.
I found out my RA consultant had contacted my GP last year to alert him that he had concerns about my heart. My GP did nothing and I ended up having a heart attack.
I have decided that I will be proactive from now on.

Daddima Sat 30-Jan-21 11:23:33

Delighted to hear it, Marydoll. I’m considering asking for bloods to be done, as they’ve only been done once in the last year, whereas before it was fortnightly. I’ve had to stop many drugs before because of kidneys being affected, and I had six days in hospital because I’d no white cells.
Ach well, just hang on in there!

Marydoll Fri 29-Jan-21 20:26:29

Daddima, I have been told today that I will be on Toculizimab indefinitely and no stopping or reducing dosage before receiving the vaccine.
I think it depends on what condition it is prescribed for.

I hadd a further set of blood tests done today to check if there is any liver or kidney damage. The good news is that the bloods done in Coronary care the other week showed that my inflammatory markers had dropped due to the treatment, which is great news.

Daddima Thu 28-Jan-21 13:18:03

Marydoll, I’d been injecting the Toculizimab for nearly a year when the first lockdown came. The doc at the hospital told me that they really only recommend that you take it for a year, but meantime, I’d just to reduce the injections to once a fortnight. She did also tell me about it being one of the drugs being used to treat Covid.
I would like a blood test just to check, but apparently that’s not happening.

Marydoll Thu 28-Jan-21 13:06:21

Great news Mamissimo!

Iam64 Thu 28-Jan-21 13:05:59

I’m on biological treatment for inflammatory arthritis. As is usual with RA I have other autoimmune conditions, connective tissue disorder, sgojroens syndrome, Reynauds etc. I also have atrial fibrillation. I’m booked for my first Covid injection tomorrow. My specialist nurse confirmed it’s not a live vaccine

Mamissimo Thu 28-Jan-21 13:01:41

I had the AZ vaccination at my GP's yesterday - tiny needle and so far no side effects. I'm on the old school live biological Remicade and we timed the vaccination for halfway between infusions. Very glad to have received it.

BigBertha1 Thu 28-Jan-21 12:07:04

My BIL is is immunosuppressed having a particularly vicious form of RA - he injects a powerful expensive drug each month dont know which one but he has had his vaccine and is fine and happy. DH has had his - he is immunocompromised not having a spleen and he is fine. I am immunocompromised and have CKD and I shall jump at the chance to have mine.