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I'm a little speechless!

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Helennonotion Wed 25-Mar-20 16:39:37

twitter.com/Lilliemaenot/status/1242410885236260864

Not sure if this link will work if you don't have twitter but here goes. I can't think of any words to describe how I feel about this! Just listen.

endlessstrife Wed 25-Mar-20 16:41:09

I can’t see it. Can you tell us what it is?

Helennonotion Wed 25-Mar-20 16:46:43

Ahhh I wondered if it would work or not. Its a radio interview with an older lady. It's a little long to go into detail! Sorry. Will look later and see if I can find a transcript or something.

Baggs Wed 25-Mar-20 16:52:49

I listened to the clip. A woman phoned in to a radio programme and asked the radio presenter why he was worried about getting Covid19. He said "Because if I get it I'll give it to other people".
The woman's response was, "Well that's too bad."
Presenter was shocked. He asked the woman where she'd been over the weekend. She answered that she'd been shopping on the Saturday, for a walk along the seafront and a sit on a beach somewhere on the Sunday, and then called on a 78yo friend. Woman herself is 75.

Presenter really really really shocked and told woman she had been irresponsible to visit an old person, but the woman said her friend didn't mind at all.

Presenter then asked woman if she was willing to die for the freedom to come and go as she had done. She said yes cause she'd had her life.

JenniferEccles Wed 25-Mar-20 16:54:31

I have listened to it.

It’s truly awful and terrifying to think that there are probably thousands of people who think like that.

No wonder the radio presenter cut her off in the end.

Helennonotion Wed 25-Mar-20 16:55:00

Thank you Baggs, I'm currently trying to cook tea. grin

Baggs Wed 25-Mar-20 16:55:52

So the woman was acting in contravention of the guidelines.

I get where she's coming from even if I wouldn't engage in such contraventions myself. Although, tbh, it's only really the visiting bit that contravened advice. We have to shop for food and getting some fresh air is allowed if you keep away from other people. It's not clear from the clip whether the woman had been near other people, other than her husband who was at home recovering after a stroke, and the friend she visited.

Helennonotion Wed 25-Mar-20 16:56:03

I feel so sorry for her poor husband who is recovering from a stroke!

ninathenana Wed 25-Mar-20 16:56:35

The link worked for me.
I'm gob smacked, stupid irresponsible, selfish .......

I could go on 🤬

Gemini17892 Wed 25-Mar-20 16:58:20

The link worked for me and like you I’m speechless.
When the medical officer said on that first interview that people would not abide by any kind of isolation I thought he was wrong because I thought it’s obvious you have to do that. But people like that lady who insist on going out and contacting people are just irresponsible.

Baggs Wed 25-Mar-20 16:58:25

I think husband would have been with her except that he wasn't fit enough at the mo.

EllanVannin Wed 25-Mar-20 16:58:31

One infected person can pass on the infection to 59,000 others. It's that lethal.

Hetty58 Wed 25-Mar-20 16:59:15

Link worked fine for me (but I'm on Twitter).

Unbelievable - there are some very stupid and selfish people about. They just don't seem to get it - at all. They need locking up!

Baggs Wed 25-Mar-20 17:00:46

Thing is....

... going devil's advocate here...

Some people, care workers, say, are having to go into the homes of old people who need care, and also to get on with their own lives.
Some teachers are having to go to school to teach/care for kids whose parents are key workers.
Many people do jobs that cannot be done from home.
Have you seen all the pictures of crammed London Underground trains?

justwokeup Wed 25-Mar-20 17:05:18

I just wondered why Jeremy Corbyn isn't at home. Politics aside, he's a public figure and it's a bad example. He can do absolutely everything from his home.

Laughterlines Wed 25-Mar-20 17:22:13

There are a lot of people out there who are stupid and won’t be told anything..if I get it I get it attitude and ...we are Brits Hitler didn’t beat us .....kinda stuff.

I had to tell dear friend off who had this attitude and I said ..

If you die your cat will probably have to be put down as nobody would take it in in this crisis. That did the trick.

On the other hand most people are being positive and complying with rules. That will make a big difference. Stay cool and keep washing your hands.

eazybee Wed 25-Mar-20 17:28:42

Very shocked to learn that a twenty-one year old girl, no underlying health problems, has died today.

That brings home the danger of infection.

gillybob Wed 25-Mar-20 17:33:48

Well I’ve just managed to drop a bag of shopping off for my dad. Telephoned him and left it at his front door . I then walked back to my car. His face appeared at the window and he waved a thank you . I just burst into tears . Waited until he came to the door and we had a sort of conversation from the road . Meanwhile 2 doors down a carer was going in to another bungalow . confused

growstuff Wed 25-Mar-20 18:09:38

EllenVannin is correct. By coincidence, I've just done the maths. Without restrictions, each infected person is on average likely to pass it on to two or three more people.

It takes 14 days from infection for symptoms to appear.

So …

Within 13 days, the chances are that 59,604 will be infected from a single source … and that's before the first person even realises that he/she is infected. Those 59,604 people will, of course, go on to infect even more.

Nobody seems to know the exact death rate because nobody knows how many people have actually been infected, but it would appear to be about 10% for those over 80 and just less than 1% overall. 59,604 infected people will possibly/probably cause 596 deaths … all from a single source.

growstuff Wed 25-Mar-20 18:10:16

eazybee An 18 year old has died too.

EllanVannin Wed 25-Mar-20 18:14:52

A newborn also contracted it---possibly from a staff member. ?The baby developed bronchitis and remains to be fighting.

Ginny42 Wed 25-Mar-20 18:18:52

Equally shocking my friend who says she isn't 70 till August so she's going out and about, going into town shopping and had a friend stay over at the weekend. Both with health problems; one on meds for a leaky heart valve and the other has incurable cancer although doing well at this stage.

I guess we'll see a huge spike in cases two weeks from the crowded beach scenes and picnics in the park last weekend.

welbeck Wed 25-Mar-20 18:30:02

careworkers have to go into people's homes, it's unavoidable. that's all the more reason why everyone else should
not circulate.

Summerlove Wed 25-Mar-20 18:33:22

It’s completely shocking, but not at all surprising how many people will completely disregard advice. Many of them will say “because the rules didn’t start until Monday”.

growstuff Wed 25-Mar-20 18:53:22

By 22nd March, Italy had 5476 deaths. The UK is following a steeper curve, so we can expect to see a similar number. The people who die in two weeks will already have been infected before the Monday lockdown.