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DNA help please

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Anniebach Sat 08-Dec-18 13:18:04

Younger daughter has bought me a DNA test, I have to register it with Ancestry then send it off and wait.

What can I expect ? I have not the foggiest how it all works

silverlining48 Sat 08-Dec-18 13:21:47

I think you might get a map back with say 50% welsh 20% Spanish, 15% somewhere else etc etc. My daughter did it.

Jalima1108 Sat 08-Dec-18 13:26:09

It's not like the normal DNA tests with a swab from the inside of the cheek - I think you have to produce quite a bit of saliva and send it off in a tube!

Assuming it is an Ancestry DNA test:

Your AncestryDNA results include information about your geographic origins across 350 regions and identifies potential relatives through DNA matching to others who have taken the AncestryDNA test. Your results are a great starting point for more family history research, and it can also be a way to dig even deeper into the research you've already done.
The AncestryDNA test analyzes your entire genome—all 23 pairs of chromosomes—as opposed to only looking at the Y-chromosome or mitochondrial DNA (which makes other types of tests gender specific). Your autosomal chromosomes carry genetic information from both your parents that's passed down through the generations.
www.ancestrydna.co.uk/kits?msclkid=d521141a7a58197149da4811bf3e7f7e&o_xid=81662&o_lid=81662&o_sch=Paid+Search+Brand

Your results will go on a database.

NfkDumpling Sat 08-Dec-18 13:27:30

I got that for a present from my children last year. You register on line, spit (a lot) into the tube and send it off. I think I got an email and the results were all on line. Unsurprisingly, being from Norfolk, I’m mostly Norman and Dane.

They also found the nearest matches on their database. My cousin, who’s deep into finding his ancestors was one and a second cousin who neither of us had heard of in Canada. Her family history matches and my cousin has been in touch.

Anniebach Sat 08-Dec-18 13:54:33

Thank you x

Don’t want to do it now, would love to find distant cousins but ! I want to remain 100% Welsh , which I am because I say so , suppose I can blame my South Wales ancestors, no one went to Anglesey so the blame can’t lie with my North Wales ancestors

BlueBelle Sat 08-Dec-18 14:24:44

Is this the one that has a high postage rate

Anniebach Sat 08-Dec-18 15:18:36

It was £10 BlueBelle

BlueBelle Sat 08-Dec-18 15:44:14

Thanks Anniebach I m glad you feel 100% no one is 100% anything we re all hybrids 😂

Anniebach Sat 08-Dec-18 16:05:15

BlueBelle, i am 100% Welsh because I choose to be , my grandchildren tell me ‘you can’t be 100% Welsh’, my reply always ‘ prove I am not’. They will be so ‘told you’ when I have the results , if I choose to tell them 😀

Cherrytree59 Sat 08-Dec-18 17:20:56

Annie would you be you are ok with a Celtic ancestry?

A long lost USA cousin on my maternal line has taken the DNA test and discovered that she is mostly of Viking descent, which I am ok with.

You are born and bred Welsh with Welsh parents,
so Anniebach lass You are 100% Welsh
And quite entitled to represent your country rugby. tchgrin

Anniebach Sat 08-Dec-18 18:08:41

Cherry thank you x

My parents right back to my 7 x great grandparents on both sides , all Welsh , unless one of the females was naughty 😀, the only Anglesey one to leave the Island was my paternal Grandfather and he came to South Wales , be interesting but 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

Bathsheba Sat 08-Dec-18 18:29:18

Annie please do come on here and let us know if you really are 100% Welsh, or as near as makes no difference. How fascinating that would be!
I've had it done with Ancestry.co.uk. It didn't cost me anything in postage, however - it was postage paid.

NfkDumpling Sat 08-Dec-18 18:38:33

Mine was postage paid too.

I’m 100% Norfolk going back as far as the late 1700’s. The fact that some of my ancestors before then were Walloon and Dane I already guessed. It doesn’t make me any less Norfolk! I am curious though about the 1% Eastern European Jew and the 2% Iberian!

Anniebach Sat 08-Dec-18 19:10:33

Bathsheba I will share it here I promise , I now have a fantasy, I have been searching for uncle William brn 1834, in Anglesey, he vanish after 1871, I have searched for him for years, he didn’t die on Anglesey, perhaps he married and has a descendant with a tree on Ancestry, I so want to know where he was buried, if in England my brother can take a little soil from Wales and scatter it in the graveyard. A fantasy though. The brother of my g granny died in Liverpool, had soil sprinkled there. Did you find distant relatives ?

Anniebach Sat 08-Dec-18 19:18:59

Nfk, I have gone back to 1670 with my Anglesey side , my doubts are with my South Wales half because many people came here for the iron works and coal mines, hope my female ancestors behaved . 1% Eastern European Jew and 2% Iberian, gosh

Doodle Sat 08-Dec-18 19:35:14

anniebach I have a neighbour who did it and was fascinated with the results.
I have always thought of myself as a bit Welsh as both my parents and my brother were born in Wales although I was born in England. My paternal grandmother was part French though where from I don't know. I have always been quite proud of being a bit Welsh as a number of my larger family are Welsh and my father was a coal miner in the valleys. 😀

Bathsheba Sat 08-Dec-18 19:46:05

Annie there were quite a large number of 3rd and 4th cousins, but I've not really looked into them yet - planning on renewing my full membership of Ancestry in the New Year, and investigating a little further with these. Might be interesting! There were some 1st and 2nd cousins which I already knew about, so no surprises there!

Bathsheba Sat 08-Dec-18 19:47:11

Oops, "there was quite a large number" - before anyone picks me up on my grammar wink

Anniebach Sat 08-Dec-18 21:12:25

Bathsheba, May be interesting ?

Luckygirl Sat 08-Dec-18 21:24:46

I would love to do this. It has been suggested that my maternal grandmother might be mixed race not too far back (features, curly black hair). My siblings and I all have dark colouring, including skin, in spite of a fair father.

But then, we all hail form Africa initially.

Maybe I will save up some spit for a test one day.

Anniebach Sat 08-Dec-18 21:33:19

Doodle both parents born in Wales? You could play rugby for Wales so you are Welsh 😀 this is for you 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

Do it Luckygirl you could be decendend from some wealthy royal family , I don’t mean the Windsor’s, they are not exotic

Doodle Sat 08-Dec-18 21:45:40

Oh thank you annie that's so nice.

Anniebach Sat 08-Dec-18 21:56:35

Just had a thought , I could be proved right, I am a decendant of Owain Glyndwr, the last Prince of Wales 👸

I am getting a little carried away now 😀

Luckygirl Sun 09-Dec-18 08:46:21

There was a "Who do you think you are?" programme where the person found he was descended from Owain Glyndwr. They then invited him to a full pub, where every single person was also so descended - so he did not feel so special.

Anniebach Sun 09-Dec-18 08:53:46

😀 as he died 600 years there must be rather a lot of decendents , he had ten children

Esspee Sun 09-Dec-18 09:06:19

I used "23 and me" and was delighted to find I am part Neanderthal.
I was reassured to discover I don't carry the breast or prostate cancer gene and especially that I don't carry the Alzheimer's gene.
I have messaged a couple of cousins I didn't know I had but have not had a reply yet.

Bellasnana Sun 09-Dec-18 09:32:28

I did the Ancestry one. Not really sure what I was expecting, but found the results a bit vague. It hasn’t flagged up anything amazing grin

Bridgeit Sun 09-Dec-18 09:57:42

I am interested in doing this, but I don’t like the thought of my DNA being somewhere out there , perhaps I’ve been watching too many ‘ who done its’

Anniebach Sun 09-Dec-18 10:10:58

Esspee I have never heard of ‘23 and me’.

Bellasnana i don’t expect anything amazing , just hope for a lead to some one who vanished .

Bridgeit. 😀

fiorentina51 Sun 09-Dec-18 11:08:02

We (OH and I ) used 23 and me last year. It was postage paid and quite straightforward to use.
The results were a bit surprising especially concerning my husband. He had a tiny percentage of native American and south East Asian ancestry plus enough Italian DNA to be able to pinpoint roughly how long ago it entered the blood line.
I'm 100% European but my goodness, what a glorious mixture I am!

GabriellaG Sun 09-Dec-18 11:38:44

You may not be prepared for the results. We all (apparently) originate from Africa. You may have some unsavoury characters in your ancestry and may not be as Welsh as you hope think you are.
Good luck shamrock
It can be an interesting, absorbing journey.

GabriellaG Sun 09-Dec-18 11:47:53

I am 25% Spanish through my maternal GM 12.5% Irish through my maternal GF and 37.5% English and that suits me fine. How it originated hundreds of years ago doesn't interest me now as it was a faff receiving false leads on Ancestry so I left it. grin

Jalima1108 Sun 09-Dec-18 11:49:52

Most of us have a percentage of Neanderthal heritage too.

Jalima1108 Sun 09-Dec-18 11:51:49

Luckygirl I think it was the comedian Greg Davies who found he was descended from Owain Glyndwr.

My mother's side is connected to Edward IV so I am probably related to Danny Dyer grin

Anniebach Sun 09-Dec-18 11:55:41

Gabriella I don’t care if we originated from Africa
My direct line back to the 17th century is Welsh, good enough for me to say ‘I am Welsh’ no hope , no think, I am

Jalima1108 Sun 09-Dec-18 12:08:07

I am 25% Spanish through my maternal GM

In three African populations Neanderthal genes were vanishingly rare, and in the lipid processing area accounted for 2% of genes. Five European and three Asian populations had very similar rates of overall Neanderthal genes in the study – around 6% of those sampled, although more extensive studies have estimated 1-4%. However, in the lipid cluster this reached 20% for Europeans (and higher still for a sample from Spain, where Neanderthals are believe to have made their last stand) while being a third of that in the Japanese and northern and southern Chinese groups studied.

Interesting.

GabriellaG Sun 09-Dec-18 12:17:48

Jalima1108

To you or to me?
You must spend a lot of time researching and copy/pasting articles. What a thrilling hobby.
If you're trying (unsuccesfully) to link that effort to me...so what?
The fact that you chose to spend time trying to effect a negative reaction says much about you and nothing about me.
Have a great day. winegrin

Anniebach Sun 09-Dec-18 12:19:51

Interesting for the thread

Jalima1108 Sun 09-Dec-18 12:26:04

I did a lot of researching with my job GabrielllaG
Yes - fascinating.

Heritage and our origins are fascinating subjects.

GabriellaG Sun 09-Dec-18 17:25:15

When all's said and done, we are all related. grin
I bet that's a rather uncomfortable feeling...eh?

Purpledaffodil Sun 09-Dec-18 18:13:03

Bought DH an Ancestry test last year as a birthday present. He had a fantasy that his DF was descended from Spanish Armada wrecked off Ireland. Results disproved this, but resulted in Welsh, Irish and Scottish heritage. Also a small percentage of Finnish which was interesting. I would dismiss as smoke and mirrors, but one of his relatives they flagged up had the same surname as his paternal GM. Have not taken it any further as post stroke, his literacy isn’t up to it and I have plenty of other stuff on my plate!

JudyT Mon 10-Dec-18 11:09:39

Sometimes my Gransnet doesn't load up. Today's for instance. The line endlessly travels across the top of the screen. This older post opened at once. I wonder where the problem lies and if others are experiencing this?

Esspee Mon 10-Dec-18 14:01:04

Anniebach I chose to use "23 and me* after Michael Mosley used it on his TV programme. I was particularly interested in inherited diseases and was happy to open all the locked results.
In the USA the FDA stopped "23 and me" giving some test results out so they have a diluted version nowadays as far as I am aware.

Esspee Mon 10-Dec-18 14:12:34

I know there are people who would prefer not to be told if they were likely to contract certain conditions but I am the opposite. I take full responsibility for my health and work in partnership with medical professionals.
Ancestry is something I intend to research when I finally give up work and perhaps am less busy but it is nice to be informed periodically that new genetic relatives have signed up to 23 and me.
They correctly identified my son despite me registering under a nom de plume so I do have faith that the ancestry information provided is accurate.

Anniebach Mon 10-Dec-18 14:16:48

Espee. Thank you. I have never heard of ‘23 and me’

Jalima1108 Mon 10-Dec-18 18:05:52

I think that 23 and Me is a genetic testing company - they will test for ancestry but also for health conditions.

(23 pairs of chromosomes)

Anniebach Mon 10-Dec-18 18:23:55

Thanks Jelima I wouldn’t bother with tests for health conditions no matter my age

fiorentina51 Mon 10-Dec-18 19:05:40

The health test is optional. I didn't bother with it.

Jalima1108 Mon 10-Dec-18 23:30:59

Better not to know Anniebach!

Grandma2213 Mon 10-Dec-18 23:53:51

My DS bought me a subscription to Ancestry which I loved researching and I built quite a big family tree up to 3/4 generations back. Trouble is I kept getting sidetracked onto interesting lines so finally ran out of time!

I went with MyHeritage for a DNA test as I heard a programme saying it had the biggest database for comparisons. No spitting required, just a swab. As expected 9.1% Scandinavian because my great grandparents came from Sweden. 6.7% Finnish unexpected but it is not too far away. Despite only having Scottish and Irish ancestors otherwise I was 82.1% English That was a shock until I looked at the map with the results and it actually covered England. Wales, Scotland and Ireland. What really surprised me was the 1.1% North African and the 1% Nigerian. I wish I had a time machine to see how all this happened.

My other DS also took the test some time later and his English was only 27.5% but he also had 31.2% Irish/Scottish/Welsh. Maybe their database has become more sophisticated in the few months since I did it. On the other hand he was 40.5% Scandinavian. I struggled with this as I was only 9.1% and he is supposed to have inherited 50% of my genes. Maybe mathematicians could explain this! His 0.8% Greek must have come from his father!

They very quickly identified us as parent and child, though I appear to have hundreds of 3rd 4th and 5th cousins. They also identified one nephew

oldgaijin Wed 12-Dec-18 08:08:02

Anniebach, it is totally fascinating and you can break down brick walls...just last night I found two first cousins in the USA. I am sure you are 100% Welsh, just as I am 100% Scots, even though my ancestry is mainly S. England and N. Europe! I think there is a little bit of Viking in us all.

Anniebach Wed 12-Dec-18 08:36:15

oldgaijin. Thank you. Yes I am 100% Welsh regardless of the DNA results 😀. Hope I can breakdown some brick walls, my greatest wish is to find a descendant of William brn 1834, but very, very unlikely.
How exciting you have found two first cousins in the USA, I have nineteen first cousins, fifteen live in Wales and four in England so there will be no first cousins to be found

Clara6 Wed 12-Dec-18 15:29:14

I sent a sample to Ancestry last year, but they couldn't get enough DNA from it and I had to submit another sample. The second time I scraped the inside of my cheeks with a toothbrush and spit that into the sample, so it worked. Read the small print of the terms and conditions and be aware of how your dna results could be released to other companies. In America, for instance, the police are allowed to search the Ancestry DNA database to find relatives of murderers making it easier for them to catch a killer. I'm not suggesting you have a murderer in your family tree though!

BradfordLass72 Wed 12-Jun-19 06:00:28

I have traced my provable ancestry back, mostly on my mother's side, to the early 1500's and unprovably, but because the surname is unusual and most of us originated from one small Yorkshire village, back to 1300's via a Poll Tax record.

When I look at the huge scroll of my ancestors and know there are many more on Dad's side and beyond, it amazes me that there are only 3 of us left!

I have recently traced a first cousin still alive and I value her very much. She's just become a grandma so I suppose I have a 2nd cousin twice removed smile

I wish I could afford a DNA test because I'd like to know if I have more relatives anywhere - but please not aristocracy or royal, I couldn't bear that. hmm

Esspee Wed 12-Jun-19 06:11:18

I chose to do the "23 and me" DNA test which also provides medical information.
I was delighted to find that I don't carry the breast/prostate cancer gene nor the Alzheimer's gene.

Chestnut Mon 02-Sep-19 15:38:45

Luckygirl, just came onto the forum and saw your mention of Greg Davies being descended from Owain Glyndyr. But realised that he was in fact descended from Owain Gwynedd, a different person! Very confusing but if you check Wiki you'll find them. I had never heard of Owain Gwynedd so this was all new to me.

Anniebach Mon 02-Sep-19 16:11:47

Owain Gwynedd was the first Prince of Wales

luckyrose62 Mon 02-Sep-19 16:29:09

My husband has always tanned easily and was dark haired. I used to joke with him about where his DNA must be from. Where I am fairish with green eyes. So our present to each other was My Heritage DNA which was a swab
Well my husband is 100%English I originated Middle East tiny amount then Spanish then French then ?British. Which was a good result a 1st cousin twice removed was linked. He answered an important bit of history. My father always said we were from Hugeonot descent. Which I did not believe So this man told me this without me asking. If you have a bit of spare cash it’s a bit of fun with interest. So I am 57 varieties and he English. I am not allowed to forget this grin

Chestnut Mon 02-Sep-19 17:04:01

'Owain Gwynedd was the first Prince of Wales'
Agreed, and Owain Glyndwr was the last native Welshman to hold the title Prince of Wales some 200-300 years later (appears in Shakespeare's Henry 1V and V). It was 'Gwynedd' that Greg Davis was descended from and not 'Glyndwr' as stated.