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deaneke Tue 29-May-18 20:36:43

Our daughter hopes to fly with her 2 children. Our problem are car seats. We don't want them in permanently as we need space for lawn mowers,recycling and sometimes pets! Any suggestions, please

Bathsheba Tue 29-May-18 20:42:11

Well car seats are a legal requirement for children so you’ve got two choices really: keep them in the car or bring them indoors and put them in the car only when the children will be travelling. Or your daughter could hire a car while she’s here so the car seats don’t have to go in your car at all.

M0nica Tue 29-May-18 20:44:30

You do not say how old the children are, but modern safety seats for children of any age are not permanently fixed into cars these days and haven't been for several decades.

When my two DGC were toddlers the one set of car seats were toted around from their car to our car to their aunt's cars with no problems whatsoever. When they reached the age (around 4) when all they needed was booster seats (like solid seat shaped cushions) we just went to Halfords and bought two. They were not expensive and they live in the bottom of the wardrobe when not required. They will soon be unnecessary and will be freegled

Hilltopgran Tue 29-May-18 20:46:02

Our GC live abroad so the car seats and booster seats are stored in the house between visits, along with all the other equipment needed for young children which is not practicable to bring on a plane.

Cherrytree59 Tue 29-May-18 20:58:12

Over 30 years ago my in-laws said that they would like to take to our two children out on day trips.
We agreed they could but would need car seats.
They refused Point blank even though we said we would buy and have them installed.

Result... they were never allowed to take their grandchildren out in their carsad

Today car seats are easy to remove from cars.
deaneke Do you put lawn mowers on your back seat?
Hope your DD and DGC have an enjoyable tripsmileA

M0nica Tue 29-May-18 22:40:38

Cherrytree, you need to flatten the car seats down to get a lawnmower in, obviously impossible if seats have to be permanently attached. However as all car seats are portable these days and only use the car's already built in car seat belts, the problem that concerns deaneke is no longer a problem.

Beau Tue 29-May-18 22:52:55

We have bought 3 car seats (mum, dad, nana) because isofix fittings are not really moveable from car to car, are they? It was certainly less hassle with the small baby one which strapped in the car seat belts but DGS grew out of that at 15 months. Certainly no-one at Mothercare or Halfords said anything about moving the second size from car to car when they fitted them. Also I believe the booster seats now have to have a back on them, not sure when that becomes compulsory. We were not shown any car seats which fitted normal car seat belts in the age 1 to 4 years range.

MawBroon Tue 29-May-18 23:08:03

You need to ask again.
I had a car seat for DGS which was easilybremovanle and fitted up to age 3 by which time he could use a booster seat (yes, with a back, ) but using the cars own seat belts.

MawBroon Tue 29-May-18 23:13:48

Sorry, I think he was 4.
Look at this one by Graco. I think that’s what we had.

Farmor15 Tue 29-May-18 23:15:51

I bought 2 car seats in Halfords that do from small baby to 12 years, apparently. They don’t use the isofix system, they are attached using the car seat belts so can easily be removed and stored when grandchildren not visiting. They are quite big and heavy, but I have a big shed for storage.

Beau Tue 29-May-18 23:24:42

Thank you - too late now for me but hopefully someone else will not be 'persuaded' into buying 2 identical car seats plus 1 without an airbag (SIL was more 'economical' than us 🤔

Jalima1108 Tue 29-May-18 23:41:18

We have that one MawBroon and the bottom part detaches so that you can use just the bottom cushion when the child doesn't need the seat but does need the booster cushion.
It's fixed with the seatbelt, not isofix and was quite suitable from about age 3 upwards.

Jalima1108 Tue 29-May-18 23:43:05

Yes, you can move the ones with isofix systems from car to car; we did when we had the baby seat but we used the seat belts as well (belt and braces).

deaneke Wed 30-May-18 07:25:19

Wow, thanks everyone. With this new information I will go to Halfords. I know my daughter has the fixed isofix. Things move on so quickly and of course safety is paramount.

Iam64 Wed 30-May-18 08:18:39

We found Halfords helpful. They have a member of staff who specialises in baby seats. We have two very similar to Maws photograph, they stay in my car most of the time because they’re rather heavy and take up space in the house.

felice Wed 30-May-18 08:29:36

Just looked and the one I have is from KidsGarden and fits with seat belts. I got it from a friend whose DGC had moved on to Booster seats.
It is very useful indeed.

Bathsheba Wed 30-May-18 08:44:03

We had an isofix car seat in each car for our GD until fairly recently. Yes I know they can be moved from car to car, but we found it virtually impossible. Getting them out was easy; getting them back in, however, was an entirely different matter as the car's isofix fittings were so deeply buried it was extremely difficult to locate the seat fittings into them - and even when we did successfully marry them up, the amount of brute force needed to get them 'clicked' into place was beyond both of us. The only person who could do it was our son! Consequently we removed them only very rarely.
Now, thankfully, she uses one of the booster seats with back, secured by the car's seat belt.

harrigran Wed 30-May-18 10:00:27

We have had several different child car seats, all isofix, and they were easily removed and replaced.
Little booster seats are uncomfortable but probably are okay for short journeys. My GC is very tall for her age and reached the height/weight requirement at eight so does not require a booster.

Bathsheba Wed 30-May-18 11:55:09

I can only assume your car's fittings were easier to access harrigran. Honestly, my husband couldn't get them in, neither could I, and neither could a couple of friends who tried. Only our son, and I could see the amount of force he needed to exert to get them connected. Actually quite exhausting! One of the problems was that the isofix fitting towards the middle of the seat is right next to, virtually touching, the car's seatbelt anchor, so that we couldn't get our hands into the gap to guide the seat's fitting into place.

Bathsheba Wed 30-May-18 11:57:05

Oh and her booster seat isn't uncomfortable at all! It's a Graco, very similar to the one in the picture that MawBroon posted above. Very sturdy, well padded and she says it's very comfortable.

CassieJ Wed 30-May-18 13:22:35

When my son and daughter in law came over from Canada with my grandchild they brought the car seat with them. You should check whether your daughter could do this?

You need to make sure any booster seats you use have backs to them as this is now the legal requirement.

muffinthemoo Wed 30-May-18 13:38:34

If you are going to consider shopping for car seats, if you have the height, weight and age of each child the entire process is massively easier as it will eliminate the ones that are unsuitable or indeed illegal.

Bring the car you plan to put the seat in and ask the shop staff to demonstrate fitting it in your own car. This is super helpful if you are concerned about getting it in and out.

It is also especially important for seat belt only secured ones to make sure you are fitting the belt correctly as the fittings for those are not as obvious as the ISOFIX ones.

The shop staff should have had the training to fit the seats safely. Don’t buy a seat for under fours that you haven’t seen fitted.

If your daughter is doing extended rear facing with her little ones, it’s good for you to know that in advance too. She may not be willing to forward face them yet.

Knowledge is time and money saved! Good luck x

SueDonim Wed 30-May-18 13:51:33

Isofix fittings do seem to vary from car to car as to how easily accessible they are. We use a car seat with the seat belt for our GC.

When the seats aren't needed we put them in the attic.

Bathsheba Wed 30-May-18 20:31:33

You need to make sure any booster seats you use have backs to them as this is now the legal requirement.

That's not true CassieJ - the law regarding booster cushions has changed, but it is still perfectly legal to use them, in accordance with the amended law. See this section from the Gov.UK site on child seats (with my highlighting)

midgey Wed 30-May-18 21:00:45

Dean eke, try going to Mothercare they are having big sales as so many shops are closing.

Jalima1108 Wed 30-May-18 23:21:00

DGD has grown out of the seat pictured above but still requires a bit of a boost so I must have a look at the Mothercare site.
In fact, I have often wondered if they may be useful for some adults who are a bit on the shorter side - myself included.

Franbern Mon 04-Jun-18 10:00:05

Was surprised to read here that booster seats without a back are now illegal. Yesterday, I visited one of my daughters and as she was suffering from a bad back which makes driving difficult, when we went out, we used my car. She just moved a backless booster seat into my car for her 8 1/2 yr old daughter.

Bathsheba Mon 04-Jun-18 12:24:34

Franbern they're not illegal. That information further upthread was incorrect!

See my post at Wed 30-May-18 20:31:33, with image of info from Gov.UK

SueDonim Mon 04-Jun-18 14:51:20

Bathsheba is quite right, backless boosters are not illegal. Mothercare was still selling them recently.

I think what is happening is that once they're all sold, no more will be available so they will gradually be phased out. I'm prepared to be corrected on that, though.

Farmer28 Tue 14-May-19 14:11:41

We seem to be accumilating Grandchildren and, as a result, are looking for a 7 seater. The best option seems to be a Volvo XC90 but the reviews say the third row of seats are "only suitable for children". Does anyone know if we can get two child car seats into the third row of an XC90? Modern car seats are very bulky

felice Tue 14-May-19 14:45:32

I am taking my Grandson 7, to the UK for a week during the summer holidays to visit friends. His first time flying, we plan to hire a car seat for the week as they will have no future use for one.
I found a company online which charges approximately 20£ a week and delivers and collects . He is also checking out the AA as friends have hired from them in the past.
Halfords used to hire but they did not come up on the Internet.

MawBroonsback Tue 14-May-19 14:53:35

As well as the Isofix type (which are removable anyway) there are car seats which are affixed with the existing seatbelts and pretty easy to remove or transfer to another vehicle.

grumppa Tue 14-May-19 15:04:36

No need for fitness régimes, pilates etc. when you have four grandchildren of different ages, and three seats. Heaving them in and out and adapting one for either the ten year old or the three year old is a constant physical challenge.