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Granddaughter suddenly not sleeping

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ZeldaRuby Mon 14-Oct-19 08:27:54

My granddaughter is 23 months old and up until four nights ago has been a really good sleeper. Over the last few nights she has either screamed at bedtime for over two hours, or like last night went to sleep but woke at 2.30am and that was that.

Any answers, advice not quite sure how to support daughter

MovingOn2018 Mon 14-Oct-19 21:15:27

How many naps does she have during the day, and how long are these naps? Any new life changes that may cause her anxiety such as a new daycare/babysitter, potty training, new sibling? Is her bedtime too late? If she's overtired she won't sleep easy. If none of these factors come into play, please look up sleep regression in toddlers and read motte about it. It may be temporary. I've found that a warm bath right before bedtime, and a massage with some baby cream always works wonders. All the best!

GagaJo Mon 14-Oct-19 22:14:49

Oh I empathise! GS, who lives with me and his mum, was a great sleeper (after we sleep trained him) from 9 months on. Lo and behold, now at 1 1/2, he is up in the middle of the night, at least once a week.

I have an extremely demanding job and MUST have my sleep so it causes real problems. Not that I get up with him, but my house isn't huge and my sleep is disturbed wherever in the house he and his mum are.

It's a nightmare. We've made his bedtime later, cut out his naps, make sure he's had a good dinner so isn't hungry, have got new more absorbent nappies. Nothing helps.

We're hoping he'll grow out of it. But if he's not over it by Christmas hols, it'll be sleep training mark 2.

GagaJo Mon 14-Oct-19 22:15:19

It's been going on for getting on for 2 months now. So not a temporary thing!

Urmstongran Mon 14-Oct-19 22:28:02

Out in the fresh air of an afternoon for a walk ‘toddle’ around the block which is a long way for a baby. Tired babies sleep.

Summerlove Mon 14-Oct-19 23:11:42

“Tired babies sleep”

Not in my experience. The more sleep my kids had (within reason) the more they slept sleep breeds sleep. The more over stimulated/exhausted the Worse sleep got. It could take days to recover.

There is a sleep regression around 2, hopefully it’s not more than a week or so.

Have your daughter look up wonder weeks.

Nansnet Tue 15-Oct-19 13:28:12

All babies/toddlers are different. My son was a nightmare ... he began to sleep through night, but once he started teething, it was all over ... for years! Seemed he woke in the middle of the night ... every night, forever! I tried everything! Of course, it did eventually stop, but seemed like a lifetime at the time! My daughter, on the other hand, was a dream child, slept through from a very early age, and hardly ever any problem. You just have to go with it, I'm afraid, and hope for the best!

GagaJo Tue 15-Oct-19 22:54:58

Nothing seems to work with GS. He's 1 1/2 and with or without a nap, he will wake for 3 or 4 hours in the night at least once every few days. He's exceptionally active, like a bloody dynamo!

We used to be proud of how well he slept. Ha!

HannahMild Fri 08-Nov-19 15:36:52

I'm completely sure that night waking is quite normal for toddlers. It's a very common trouble. Just look at all those bleary-eyed parents around you. This sleeping habit will run its course given time and your patience. When my son woke up in the middle of the night, I tried to make him feel comfortable in his sleeping pack-n-play (like this stuff!!! by whispering it's ok. Sometimes I brought him to our bed, but it wasn't the best idea.

rosenoir Fri 08-Nov-19 15:53:08

Has anything in her room been moved? Lay in her bed in the dark and see if anything looks scarey. Worth a try.

jeanie99 Mon 18-Nov-19 20:22:08

What is her bedtime routine?
as this been changed.

What does she eat before going to bed?
as this been changed.

Does she have a baby light?

Is she too hot/cold.

Does she have a favourite toy?

Terrible twos!!

M0nica Mon 18-Nov-19 20:35:21

Is he having sleep terrors? DGD went through a long phase from under a year of waking in the middle of the night and screaming, goodness did she scream, a scream of real terror.

Her parents noticed that the screaming started before she woke and it took her sometime to wake even after she was picked up and they realised it was sleep terrors.

There is not much you can do to deal with sleep terrors and she did (eventually) grow out of it.

MamaCaz Thu 02-Jan-20 14:05:54

My 18 month old dgd has suddenly started behaving rather like the OP's. The only real difference is that she has never been a consistently good sleeper, despite all DS and DiL having a good bedtime routine.
This last couple of weeks, however she has started resisting sleep at any time (including daytime naps at my house, not just when she is at home), despite being obviously tired.

At night, as well crying at bedtime, she has started screaming in the middle of the night, and the only way of calming her has been for her parents to take her into their own bed, where she snuggles up to them, calms down and falls asleep. They are aware that this isn't a good thing to be doing on a regular basis, but are so tired from lack of sleep that they are then struggling at work next day, and this at least gets her back to sleep.

Monica Because she's so young, the possibility of night terrors hadn't occurred to either me or, as far as I know, her parents, but your mention of them has set me wondering if she might have started having these. I will mention it to her parents, to see what they think.

GrannyLaine Sat 11-Jan-20 20:27:50

M0nica My first thought was night terrors also. My third daughter had this from about 18 months and eventually grew out of it. She needed a great deal of comforting to settle and to be honest, taking her into our bed where she felt safe achieved this with the least loss of sleep for all concerned.

Starlady Sat 18-Jan-20 02:47:55

I thought of night terrors, too. And the "terrible twos." Kids that are going through defiance during the day and learning to accept the word "no," are more likely to have "bad dreams" and trouble sleeping if I remember correctly. Then again, it could just be some new teeth coming in that's causing the problem.

I know taking baby into one's own bed isn't the best idea, MamaCaz. But sometimes one has to just do whatever works. I get it. No worries, really. Baby's not going to want to fall asleep w/ mum and dad forever. I hope the parents enjoy the snuggles (they won't always get them, LOL) and the peace.

absent Sat 18-Jan-20 04:31:52

I suspect it is that difficult age when a daily nap is too much but a nap every other day is essential. Like everything with children, it changes.