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AzaZ9 Sun 09-May-21 11:33:08

Why does the government want me to work 25hrs a week when I am 63 and caring for my young grandchildren aged 7 and 9. Had them since the youngest was born?

FannyCornforth Sun 09-May-21 11:34:05

I'm sorry, I don't understand.
What is SGO?

keepingquiet Sun 09-May-21 11:41:26

Neither do I. There have been numerous attempts to change the pension age back for women, or to compensate for their lost pensions, but they have always failed.
Of course, it is Labour party policy and on their manifesto last GE but not enough people voted for them!
The caring for grandchildren issue is similar- I presume this is around school times. Likewise increasing spending on childcare provision was another Labour promise but people would rather vote for self-serving cronyism.
Sorry to be political but this government doesn't care about how difficult your life is.

EllanVannin Sun 09-May-21 11:44:34

Special Guardianship Order.

Hithere Sun 09-May-21 11:51:36

If you have primary custody of your gc, how about arranging childcare while you work?

keepingquiet Sun 09-May-21 18:38:18

Hithere- child care costs are not cheap. The children must be in school so maybe OP has no time to herself if she's working all day. Out of school clubs and weekend activities can be very expensive but I think OP means she can't afford to retire.
It must be tough to see other people not much older enjoying their retirement when you are still working five days and have two young children to care for full-time.

Hithere Sun 09-May-21 19:59:21

Keepingquiet,

If anybody has guardianship of children, it is his/her duty to take care of them 24/7, with all the implications for his/her personal and financial life

If you are not willing to give up retirement and the life you think you deserve, give up the guardianship. It is easy. You cannot have both

Polarbear2 Sun 09-May-21 20:01:07

Can’t help much but I’m assuming you claim your NI credits as a carer for children? Counts towards your pension.

Hithere Sun 09-May-21 20:01:52

Btw, I am a mother to very young kids
No need to remind me how expensive childcare is and the cost in my personal life.

We mothers make it work, OP can do it too

Grannyben Sun 09-May-21 20:15:19

Are you receiving Universal Credit, to top up your wages, for you and your grandchildren? If so, l understood that you only had to work 16 hours, if you are on your own and, that if you have a partner, one of you must then work 25 hours

midgey Sun 09-May-21 20:55:19

Why should the op do it? She has already saved the state a fortune bringing up her grandchildren. Surely she deserves a bit of extra help from the state for ‘free’?
AzaZ9 flowers. You deserve a medal.

Iam64 Sun 09-May-21 21:19:10

Hithere

Keepingquiet,

If anybody has guardianship of children, it is his/her duty to take care of them 24/7, with all the implications for his/her personal and financial life

If you are not willing to give up retirement and the life you think you deserve, give up the guardianship. It is easy. You cannot have both

Are you in the UK Hithere?
If the OP has an SGO she shares parental responsibility. That means she doesn’t have ‘to take care of them 24/7.... etc”. She Dan work or have friends she sees, just like anyone else. I don’t understand the combative tone you’ve taken.

AzA - are you saying as part of UC you’re expected to find work for 25 hours that fits around child care.? The law expects Special Guardians to be treated as foster careers are - that is financial support

Hithere Sun 09-May-21 21:48:53

No, I am in the US

The principle of my post still stands - if she is unable to face her responsibilities, she should give that role up

Oopsadaisy1 Sun 09-May-21 22:13:36

TBH you would have to work until retirement age anyway wouldn’t you? Presumably full time?
So you work part time and then look after the children.
I guess that you have to really weigh up how your life will be affected when taking on the responsibility for caring for GCs in later years. It’s not easy, but I’m sure you are doing a great job, however you will presumably be looking after them until they are 18? So you really need to sort this out soon before you get too weighed down with it all.

keepingquiet Sun 09-May-21 22:19:52

Hithere

Btw, I am a mother to very young kids
No need to remind me how expensive childcare is and the cost in my personal life.

We mothers make it work, OP can do it too

You're not 63 years old. By the time you approach retirement and then they say you have to work for another 6 years and have your grandchildren full time you may get some inkling.
I'm glad you're making it work- I did too.

CafeAuLait Sun 09-May-21 22:45:33

I have to agree with HiThere on this. Us parents have to make it work. If you have legal guardianship you are again parenting with all that entails. I'm saving the state a fortune caring for others that I could get the state to cover but it's my choice to take on that responsibility and fit it into my life. Granted I do not have the same health I had when I was a young parent but I work around it.