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Post Menopause Bleeding

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MrsA1964 Thu 14-Mar-19 08:29:40

First post, hello

Hoping to get some reassurance.

Earlier this year I spotted some pinkish discharge when I wiped. Went to doctors, she had a look and thought it might be thrush, took a swab and urine sample and sent me off with thrush treatment. Everything seemed to clear up.

Fast forward to the weekend before last and it happened again but disappeared after a day or two. Last weekend it happened again so made appointment at doctors.

Female GP who wasn’t particularly gentle! She took a swab and then tried to find my cervix, which she couldn’t (despite three attempts with different sized implements) I was very tense and found it most uncomfortable.

She did say “it looks red and sore up there” I’ve not had any pain at all just this pink discharge when I wipe and only if I wipe high up (sorry if TMI). She’s now referred me for an ultrasound and a referral to see someone at the hospital and of course I’m out of my mind with worry. I’ve convinced myself it’s some form of cancer.

I know people mention spotting etc but I can’t describe what I have as spotting because it literally is only when I wipe.

Anybody had anything similar?

GrandmaMoira Thu 14-Mar-19 08:37:08

Obviously, only the doctors can diagnose following tests, but if you found the examination very difficult, it is possible you have vaginal atrophy. I found my last smear test very painful and it was some time after that I was diagnosed with vaginal atrophy (along with a prolapse).

MrsA1964 Thu 14-Mar-19 08:41:00

She was definitely not gentle! I’ve not had any problems with having smears over the years but this was awful, of course I then tensed up which made it even worse.

Waiting for these appointments is dreadful, I’m so worried

Teetime Thu 14-Mar-19 09:07:58

MrsA164 I'm sure you are worried but I think may find the gynae dept at your local hospital to be more practiced at procedures and more understanding and informative and the sooner you get the app so you can get some treatment and put this behind you the better so dont think of cancelling will you? (and what *Grandmoira said*) flowers

MrsA1964 Thu 14-Mar-19 09:13:57

I certainly wouldn’t cancel, I just want the appointments as soon as possible...

Greenfinch Thu 14-Mar-19 09:59:59

I have sent you a pm.

Hildagard Thu 14-Mar-19 10:21:37

MrsA1964 snap I could of written your post. Had an appointment with my doc yesterday for the same problem. Mine was very gentle and has referred me to hospital, let’s hope that we don’t have to wait too long for appointments

Minshy Thu 14-Mar-19 10:28:55

It’s important that you keep this appointment.
Probably nothing serious but don’t let the fear of being hurt put you off attending.

NemosMum Thu 14-Mar-19 10:35:17

There are many things it could be, apart from cancer! Get yourself along to that appointment and please try not to worry - "Sufficient unto the day" and all that!

Amagran Thu 14-Mar-19 10:36:11

I had something similar MrsA1964. The doctor who examined me said it was small benign polyps which grow and then break off. It seems from other posts that there are other benign reasons for PM spotting. Getting it checked out will certainly be the best thing all round.

Scrapgranny Thu 14-Mar-19 10:39:01

I have had the same problem. The ultra sound at the hospital was no problem although I had worried about it’. The staff were fantastic and very considerate of me. Plus the result was through that evening and my doctor phoned me. Don’t ignore it. Your doctor does not sound at all considerate where mine was lovely.

MrsA1964 Thu 14-Mar-19 10:41:51

I wish I had seen the male GP now..when it first happened back in January i saw the senior nurse who had no problems at all, I think the GP yesterday could do with some additional training! You can quite understand women who go for their first smear and have a similar experience not returning for further ones can’t you?

Thank you for all your replies and PM’s. I really do appreciate it x

MrsA1964 Thu 14-Mar-19 10:45:03

I should add I’ve never had any discomfort from my regular smear tests, but I guess the nurses do them all the time and that probably makes it easier.

I will definitely be going for the scan and hospital appointment once they come through.

Stella14 Thu 14-Mar-19 10:46:18

The NHS policy on Post Menopausal bleeding is for urgent referral for a ultrasound scan and assessment by a a Gynaecologist within two weeks. I have just been through this for the second time (the first was 2014). I looked at the research and although it can be a sign of endometrial cancer, in 80+% of cases, no explanation can be found. Fortunately, I am in the 80+% group! Even if the result shows cancer, the research, and the Gynaecologist I saw, both reasured that it’s an easy one to cure. Because the whole area containing it can easily be removed by hysterectomy, no other treatment is usually required (chemo etc).

I hope this is reassuring for you. It was to me. Good luck!

grannytotwins Thu 14-Mar-19 10:46:50

I had the same. It was a harmless polyp. I had it removed under general anaesthetic and afterwards was shown the photo! No problems since.

vintage1950 Thu 14-Mar-19 11:15:39

I had a benign uterine polyp. A nuisance and it was sent for biopsy but came back benign. Very common, apparently. Waiting for the results wasn't fun. Do as many fun things as possible until then!

Kerenhappuch Thu 14-Mar-19 11:22:40

My last smear test was a disaster because the nurse couldn't find my cervix (which has never happened before) but kept prodding around for about ten minutes before I told her to stop!

Re the bleeding - as others have said, there are many benign reasons possible, but whatever it is, getting an accurate diagnosis has to help. It doesn't help that every other advert on the telly seems to be about things that could be signs of cancer, nowadays.

schnackie Thu 14-Mar-19 11:34:22

I am sorry for your concerns but was glad to read that I am not the only woman with a "missing" cervix! When I went for what was supposed to be my last smear test, the nurse tried and tried but couldn't find it! At another visit, a (gentle) female doctor tried again, and scraped something up there which was a dark colour smear. I was subsequently sent for scans which showed up ovarian cysts (very odd in post menopausal women) but they have determined that they are fluid filled, not anything worrying (although I still worry). Meanwhile the missing cervix has been forgotten about.

grandtanteJE65 Thu 14-Mar-19 12:17:31

Have you a close friend, sister or cousin who you could take with you to the next appointment? I find I am less worried and better able to relax if I don't have to confront a gynaecologist on my own!

We all know that post-menopausal bleeding could mean something serious, but you could just have scratched yourself in your sleep.

You don't mention whether you are still enjoying sex with your husband. If you are, too much enthusiasm can cause bleeding, so can a benign infection in a mucous membrane in the vagina.

Please try not to worry, and do go to the appointment,

MrsA1964 Thu 14-Mar-19 12:27:25

Sadly nobody close to take with me as my sister lives abroad.

No sex at the moment as I’m recovering from new knees and he from new hips (what a pair we are) 🤦🏻‍♀️

Greengage Thu 14-Mar-19 12:29:40

20 years ago I had this problem. They found polyps which were benign. Then about a year later I had a further problem and the polyps were found to have 'aggressive' cells, which are pre-cancerous. I had a full hysterectomy and have had no problems since. No smears needed since then either!!

Labaik Thu 14-Mar-19 12:34:10

You could get some Replens MD to use. Will help if it's atrophy and won't interfere with any tests. I, too, was worried when it happened to me but was told I had a 'very angry vagina' due to atrophy. And it's good to have all of that part of your body checked out so anything treatable can be sorted. I was getting UTI's as well.

AlfiesGM Thu 14-Mar-19 12:46:38

Are you on HRT by any chance? A certain type of HRT made me bleed post menopause.

moggie57 Thu 14-Mar-19 12:58:07

its funny you saying that . i have the same, i have had a cervix scan (2102) only to be told its secondary bleeding ???? nothing to worry about. ok it went away .but last week it was back.like you high up seems to be the problem ok i know i have a very thin wall on my womb.but blood ,well i'm off back to the doctors. i dont think you have cancer but its worth getting it checked out.as i will......

MrsA1964 Thu 14-Mar-19 12:59:42

No HRT, never offered it, but then again I don’t think I needed it. I never had any problems really gong through menopause thankfully

Jacksgrandma123 Thu 14-Mar-19 13:00:30

Dear Mrs A1964, try not to worry though I understand it is easier said than done! I had a little spotting, saw Dr and had a scan where some fluid was detected and thick cervix. Hence a little worried as it was then over Christmas when nothing could be done. Drs were lovely and supportive and said probably nothing to worry about. I had had sore boobs also which usually happened before when I had periods. I had a hysteroscopy after that Christmas where nothing was found other than some fibroids that hadn't finished shrinking after menopause, and it released the fluid. They reckoned it was a 'last hurrah' after my menopause which can happen quite a while after you have finished having periods. And also have thicker cervix than average but normal for me and not indicative of anything sinister. Not had any thing since. Good luck and hope everything goes well for you.

Riggie Thu 14-Mar-19 13:17:29

I had bleeding. I was referred to a gynaecological oncologist. Had more exams and a scan and was referred for a hysterescopy under a general anaesthetic and they also did a d&c. Nothing untoward was found and the d&c cured the problem.

Barmeyoldbat Thu 14-Mar-19 13:41:21

Yes after many years I suddenly had bleeding, went to the Dr, a man, who said he would refer me to gynaecological. Decided I wasn't happy so I went back saw a female dr who got me a two week scan by a specialist (in case it was cancer). Nothing was found given the all clear. It was found that I was using a moisture gel that was inserted (can't remember name) that contained a hormone was told to stop using it and it all stopped and never came back. Just go to any appointments made and try not to over worry.

breeze Thu 14-Mar-19 14:54:27

Welcome MrsA

It does sound as though it could be persistent thrush as it cleared up last time after treatment. Anything more worrying wouldn't have responded to treatment. Have you changed your soap? underwear to less cotton content? that sort of thing. It's good that you are being thoroughly checked out now.

There are so many things it could be if not but please try not to worry yourself that it's cancer. Fibroids can cause bleeding. Endometriosis. Polyps. All sorts.

This may have been on your mind which is why you felt so very uncomfortable during your exam. Although she may also have been heavy handed and not put you at ease before examining you.

I so wish you well with your checks and please try to remember it could be something straightforward but you are doing the right thing by making sure.

flowers

Chris4159 Thu 14-Mar-19 15:25:48

My Mum had exactly the same thing, 3 weeks ago. Pinkish spotting GP referral to gynae. It should be under 2 weeks wait . It was a small polyp that was infected which caused the spotting. Please try not to worry as it sounds very similar. They gave her an ultrasound found she also has dropped womb which caused back ache and dragging feeling. Given her the choice of hysterectomy or ring pessary to support womb. Yet to decide. Let us know how it goes.

MrsA1964 Thu 14-Mar-19 15:57:17

The reason I don’t think it’s thrush is that I have no other symptoms of that like itching etc, but it could be i guess.
if it hasn’t been thrush last time would the spotting have continued after the thrush treatment?

Mollyplop Thu 14-Mar-19 16:08:10

I had similar. Had ultra sound and all ok. Never did find out what it was but it cleared up. I feel for you as the waiting is the worse bit. Big hug xx

MrsA1964 Thu 14-Mar-19 16:12:09

Really appreciate you all sharing your experiences , thank you so much ♥️

angelic Thu 14-Mar-19 16:20:33

I had the same problem 6 months ago, really worried and concerned as I had a Hysterectomy 8 years but still have my Ovaries.
Had an Ultra Scan and thankfully all.
ok
Still do not know what it was, but no further problems.

haddersmum Thu 14-Mar-19 17:30:08

I had the same and unable to find my cervix, had two nurses and GP Looking for it. Then to clinic at hospital who could not find it. Sent me for a scan. Turned out to be a growth on an ovary which had got very large, Thought it could be ovarian cancer but it was benign and removed by keyhole, all 12lb of it! Try not to worry, though I know how hard that can be. It is more likely to be something benign than not. Good luck.

Narocroc Thu 14-Mar-19 17:53:17

At the hospital I found the scan completely painless. The gynaecologist was very skilled at undertaking a smear. Fortunately everything was fine.

Nannyxthree Thu 14-Mar-19 18:19:44

Same symptoms as yours some years ago and that was polyps as others have said. good luck.

pinkpeony Thu 14-Mar-19 19:20:20

I had the same thing, sometimes a little bleeding but also itching and pain. I have been diagnosed, after 2 years of suffering, with Vaginal Atrophy and have a hormone cream which has sorted everything out.

Theoddbird Thu 14-Mar-19 20:56:42

The two week referral is precautionary so try not to worry. I was shocked when I was referred to Addenbrooks breast department when I went to doctors with breast pain. I discovered it was standard procedure for any breast problems. It is the same for lower region problems. They found nothing wrong after examination and mammogram and it cleared up with evening primrose oil. How wonderful that they act so quickly. NHS is amazing. Wishing you well x

Caro57 Thu 14-Mar-19 22:07:57

Just had similar, on a Friday, telephone consultation with GP Monday - immediate 2 week referral (which I felt was a bit OTT). Seen week later, hysteroscopy and cervical screen (coincidentally called for that in midst of this). Get checked, as per NHS guidelines - your GP may need reminding of them!

MrsA1964 Fri 15-Mar-19 07:03:37

My GP said I should hear about ultrasound and hospital appointment within 2 weeks and get back to them if I don’t..we are due to go away in 9 weeks and I’d like to have some idea of what the problem is before then in case we have to cancel.

MrsA1964 Fri 15-Mar-19 12:07:28

I rang my doctors today just to make sure the referells had been sent and they have, i then realised that the nice hospital where I had my knees done (private but do NHS work) do gynalogical appointments so rang back to ask if I could be referred there, she went off to check and came back to say I had been referred there and appointment is 8th April, so outside the 2 week guidelines but not too long to wait, she said scan should be through next week..

Still worrying but at least I know things are moving forward

JacquiG Fri 15-Mar-19 14:01:42

If you are apprehensive (and which of us isn't), try to practice relaxation and breathing exercises, there's lots of info on the net.

Consciously relax your pelvic muscles, and legs. If you've had children, do you recall that breathing? Try that?

And good luck in your examination.

Cressida Fri 15-Mar-19 21:33:08

It has happened to me 3 times several years apart. Each time they found polyps which were removed under general anaesthetic. Last time it happened I was seen by the gynaecologist within a week of seeing the GP.

Ritzi21 Sat 16-Mar-19 09:38:32

Ditto same thing happened to me. 1 yr ago a polyp removed. Now happened again?

MrsA1964 Sun 17-Mar-19 14:48:50

My scan is on 27th March but all this waiting is just terrifying me..I’m so convinced I have some form of cancer..I’m overweight and have PCOS both of those things mean I’m at much higher risk... I’m trying to not think about things but failing dismally...I’m in a right old state...

MrsA1964 Wed 20-Mar-19 18:20:54

My husband swapped his ultrasound appointment with me, so I went today...she found nothing untoward apart from a slight thickening of the womb lining, at 6mm instead of the recommended normal of 4-5mm...this has put my mind somewhat at rest but understand I will probably still need a biopsy once I’ve seen the consultant at the hospital (from reading different things) as that seems to be the norm...

MrsA1964 Tue 23-Apr-19 11:13:22

I have my hysteroscopy tomorrow, 6 weeks after seeing my GP, not really an acceptable timescale and if I hadn’t kicked up a bit of a fuss and made a nuisance of myself I suspect I would still be waiting. Not looking forward to it and am fully expecting the results not to be good when I eventually get them.

Greengage Tue 23-Apr-19 12:09:25

MrsA1964. I had this procedure twice (about 20 years ago!) as I mentioned in an earlier posting. It wasn't too bad at all, and the main thing was they sorted me out. Hope all goes well for you .

MrsA1964 Wed 24-Apr-19 11:52:47

Had my procedure this morning, all hyped up for a hysteroscopy and the doctor said it was just a biopsy..no idea why but I’m not complaining, it was all over and done with quite quickly and he and the nurses were lovely and helped put me at ease, doctor said I would get results from my consultant (not him, I was fitted in as a late cancellation) in a couple of weeks, I guess I may still need a hysteroscopy depending on the results of the biopsy but fingers crossed it won’t be necessary.

MrsA1964 Thu 02-May-19 19:00:26

Hospital rang me today, consultant now wants me go for the Hysteroscopy, I was thinking it was because biopsy was inconclusive but apparently they found a polyp during the biopsy which was, thankfully, benign and the consultant just wants to make sure there are no more hiding away.

Very relieved I must say, hysteroscopy next Tuesday, not something to look forward to but I will grin and bear it, at least I sort of know what to expect now