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AcornFairy Sun 04-Nov-18 15:25:06

As someone who has experienced the “indignity” of being reliant on a wheelchair, Justin Levene’s rant about service at Luton airport last year touched a nerve for me. I am fortunate enough to have regained enough mobility to have been able to dispense with the use of a wheelchair. However, months of total dependence on the support of other people taught me a lot about disability and impaired mobility.

Justin Levene was cruelly deprived of independence by a freak accident. To say that I feel his pain would be crass, but I do understand his desire to regain as much of that independence as possible. What I do not understand are his expectations about the availability of disability aids. I would rather not bring up the matter of money but in reality it is very pertinent. Disability aids come at a cost.

It would be wonderful if all public places could afford the plethora of equipment on offer for those with physical disabilities, but a line needs to be drawn. If everyone who is physically disadvantaged were to be suitably provided for in public life, the burden of cost would fall upon others. Subsequently more people would become disadvantaged; financially disadvantaged. Many theatre ticket prices, for example, reflect the provision of facilities for disabled patrons and thus exclude many who would love to attend the shows but simply can’t afford to.

While I applaud Justin Levene for shining a light on disability issues, I feel that a sense of proportion is needed. AIBU to suggest that we are not all entitled to everything available? I wish sharing was a bit more fashionable.

maryeliza54 Thu 08-Nov-18 09:10:04

The update on this is heartening ( although it’s still sad it had to happen) -as a result of all the publicity, Luton Airport have now bought 10 self propelled wheelchairs and as a result, JL has dropped his case. Sometimes you know ( she says as a sometimes very weary disability rights activist) only publicity and direct action makes organisations do something. Congratulations to him

JenniferEccles Thu 08-Nov-18 12:55:56

Well it was obviously a publicity stunt, wasn't it?

He was offered a wheelchair with someone to push him after all.

His little stunt will not help the handicapped at all.

FarNorth Thu 08-Nov-18 13:22:12

Jennifer Eccles did you not read maryeliza's post at all?

gmelon Thu 08-Nov-18 13:32:14

I don't understand the OP comments about the Theatre.
Tickets are the same price for me in my wheelchair as they are for everyone else.

maryeliza54 Thu 08-Nov-18 13:37:17

FarNorth posts like JE can only imo be interpreted and understood through the prism of disabilism which is pretty common sadly

Nannarose Thu 08-Nov-18 14:14:57

gmelon: It varies with different theatres. In my experience, most offer concession price to the person in a wheelchair / with a disability and to one companion.
However, I have been to some (usually major) theatres that offer significantly higher discounts. I went on a theatre outing once where the person with a disability got a free ticket if they had 2 paying companions (who could get 'concession' prices) and another where one companion could go for free + one at concession price.
I help out at a small theatre / concert hall near my home, and we offer no concessions (except for children at certain performances) so that, in a low-wage area, we keep prices low for everyone. We do rattle a bucket for the better-off to throw a bit extra though! Our disabled access is excellent as well.

gmelon Thu 08-Nov-18 14:32:15

nanarose Your theatre sounds lovely and sensibly priced to all.
A good way to keep people visiting.

I've paid full price for my tickets and could take a carer free of charge.

I think the idea is that I pay because I choose to attend but the carer may not share my choices and is roped in to go! Hence they don't pay.

PECS Thu 08-Nov-18 21:06:23

I thought the implication was that if theatres had to 'lose revenue' in using space for wheelchair users & "carers" they recouped the loss by increasing all ticket prices. No idea if that is true but how I read the post!

gmelon Thu 08-Nov-18 22:53:14

Us wheelchair users dont get to choose our seats in the venue. It would be nice to do so although I'm aware I have to sit where access is good and emergency evacuation is easy.

Less choice less charge? I dont know, it has never been something I've thought about. As I've said, full price is the norm for me.

I've less disposable income now that I cant work so I expect that is taken into account too. We don't have the same ability to earn.

annodomini Fri 09-Nov-18 00:03:53

As the young man concerned is a wheelchair athlete, he must have massive upper body strength, so it might not have done him much damage to drag himself around the airport. He was protesting against
a) the loss of his customised wheelchair
b) poor provision of an alternative on landing at the airport
This protest seems to have been successful as it's reported that Luton Airport has now decided to introduce 10 self-propelled wheelchairs. He has now dropped his legal action.

trisher Fri 09-Nov-18 11:03:12

I saw for the first time on the news last night the wheelchair he was offered. I'd never seen one like it. It looked uncomfortable and dangerous. My local airport has ordinary wheelchairs.

maryeliza54 Fri 09-Nov-18 14:05:41

Well clearly my last post was written in invisible ink anno
?

maryeliza54 Fri 09-Nov-18 14:06:28

Last but one post actually