Is Prince Andrew's protestation too little too late?

It does make you wonder, doesn't it

Prince Andrew is implicated in this, even though he tries to deny it. It was known a while ago that Andrew was a friend of a sex offender, as you mentioned Tillybelle, so why didn't he cut all ties then? It would have been a easy easy thing for a Prince to do.

I thought the suggestion on a thread yesterday about Epstein's death was pertinent. Cannot remember who it was who wrote it, but they thought the spotlight would now fall on Epsteins' associates, Andrew being one of them, and a famous one too. This is exactly what has happened. That can of worms has opened and I feel the Palace is trying to shut the door on the face of investigation into a royal's activities.

He doesn't come out of this well. Andrew knew of Epstein's vile trade in sex slaves. It's annoying that he'll probably have the trail leading to his royal door swept clean.

Is this the longest OP e Er?
We already have a thread in this subject.
Life is too short.....

“Ever”

I think if anything PA is guilty by association.

One young women who was under the age of consent (17 yr old at the time in Florida where the age of consent is 18) has already implicated PA by accusing him of having a sexual relationship with her at one of Epsteins house parties.

It will be interesting to see if Epsteins little black book" is ever found, it is thought to have detailed high profile men and the services that Epstein provided, dates, locations, witnesses etc.

If it’s ever found GrannyGravy

We are concentrating on Andrew, could be American politicians, statesmen from other countries ,Celebrities involved.

So difficult to prove a negative......

PA’s involvement is relevant to the UK because he’s a senior royal - let the USA worry about whoever of their grubby rich and famous are involved. For me there’s enough guilt that he stayed at the house of a convicted registered sex offender when we know young women were also staying there. Just say that again slowly - he stayed at the house of a convicted registered sex offender. Not a good look is it ?

The Queen's offspring seem far too eager to accept favours from wealthy people that offer them, and not to ask questions and Prince Harry and spouse are following in the steps of Prince Andrew.

I cast no aspersions at all on Elton John. As the papers have said, he was a close friend of Princess Diana, but should the Sussexes have been accepting free flights from him when they make a private visit, surely they can afford to pay for themselves.

Prince Andrew knew Epstein had a very doubtful reputation from the start and I am sure his advisors made sure he knew. He took the risk because Epstein picked up the bills. DSid he never ask himself why?

Prince Charles has had a few dodgy moments in the past, although he is getting wiser and, lets face it, when Princess Diana had her fatal crash she was dallying with Mohamed Al Fayed's son - and we know who was footing all the bills then - and he would definitely have an ulterior motive.

Anyone else remember the pictures of Charlie getting off a helicopter in Glencoe be met by Jimmy Saville and two girls dressed as "sexy waitresses"? Charlie might have managed to escape a huge scandal simply because Saville died too concidence ?
Part of the problem is that the royals have been allowed to get away with things the average jo/joe wouldn't simply because the public..or some of them still think these clowns should be respected...

Latest reports, the dark haired woman seen leaving the house with Andrew standing in the doorway is the daughter of
Paul Keating . Mr Keating will not be making any comment

I do know Andrew is a member of the royal family. I was referring to the names which may be in ‘the alleged little book’. No need to be repeated slowly.

That is interesting Anniebach
She did not look young or in any way intimidated or nervous.
That would explain why. Perhaps she is as at ease with the Royals as her father!
For anyone who is wondering, Paul Keating is the former Australian PM who put his arm round the Queen.

Many thanks for your thoughts and insights.

My main issue is the timing of this announcement and the question of whether it is for the best to make it just after Epstein's death.

Does anyone feel that the timing of this announcement of Prince Andrew's position regarding Epstein, made safely after the man's death, is more damaging to the Prince than if they had kept a dignified silence?

For me it has only raised the doubts about his behaviour even higher. Why wait until the man is dead to say you find paedophilia appalling? Why could he not say; "the suggestion he would condone, participate in or encourage any such behaviour is abhorrent." when Epstein was still alive? When he was first being investigated?
He has had years to explicitly distance himself from Epstein's practices. He could have condemned them openly and clearly years ago. Why did he wait until the man was dead?
What was he doing when he was with Epstein at his house with those young girls? Why was he so pally with him when he came out of prison? He had to have knowledge of Epstein's vast and highly organised sex trafficking of young girls. Epstein was keeping them in specially created apartments in New York and London. Andrew was staying with him, he must have known about the young girls Epstein had in his house.

Had the Palace not made this extreme announcement of denial of any desire to be part of the crimes for which Epstein was on trial, I do not think P. Andrew's previous involvement with the man or his attitude towards the man's prodigious involvement with under-age girls would have become such an issue. All they needed to do was to remind everyone of Prince Andrew's previous statement, that he regretted his involvement with this man.

The timing has made me very concerned about what Epstein knew about Andrew and the hold he had over him.

paddyann. I think you make a very good point. There are other examples of children disappearing after being introduced to senior male royals on tour in the past. The history is terrifying.

Who are the senior Male royals ?

AnniebachAs I have some connections I am scared to say - I know that sounds utterly crazy but that's it, I won't say more. You can try Youtube. Perhaps type into the search bar something relevant.

I wouldn't want to be "the person" who knows more than they should about pA's involvement.

I wonder what the price of getting someone bumped off is these days ?

Is it just me but all this "the prince of , the princess of, the duchess of , the duke of ….." is starting to make me feel sick to the stomach.

Who the hell are these people? Rogues, liars, cheats, hypocrites and god knows what else and we are supposed to respect them?

Anniebach Actually, the Youtube idea wasn't a good one - sorry! I just tried it and the trash that came up just horrified me so I don't recommend it. There may be some old newspaper reports. The trouble is it gets "edited" over time.

gillybob. I award you the golden hammer! For the "Nail on the Head Champion 2019".

I hereby accept the award Tillybelle , assuming I don't have to pick it up at Buck House that is

Anniebach as I have some connections I am scared to say
Should we be curtsying to you * Tillybelle* ?
Surely who the “ senior male* royals are is a mere matter of fact, age and seniority?
DofE, Charles, I would think, and maybe Kent and Gloucester?
Does it matter?

Tillybelle no I will not google. you have ‘connections’!
and am too scared to say ? Do you think you will be murdered or abducted .

Senior Male royals ? The queens husband, sons, grandsons,cousins, or her late father or late uncles, or her granfather, g grandfather, or perhaps Prince Albert.

Sorry but I will not take part in ‘wink,wink’ gossip.

Do you think you will be murdered or abducted

I for one wouldn't want to be taking a chance Anniebach

I am starting to seriously think that the current lot are not a lot different from their very questionable ancestors and I wouldn't trust them as far as I could pick them up and throw them.