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More people want to leave EU, even Remainers, than before.

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newnanny Wed 11-Sep-19 10:11:14

It seems the tide may be turning for Brexit. More people now want to leave EU than at point of the referendum. Even Remainers now want to leave on Oct 31st and even with no deal if necessary. Outside of Parliament and of course Gransnet, leaving is very poplular with or without a deal.

www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1176414/brexit-latest-news-eu-uk-exit-no-deal-latest-boris-johnson-uk-politics

EthelJ Fri 13-Sep-19 20:52:03

All the remainers I know still want to remain, includimg me.

growstuff Fri 13-Sep-19 20:48:29

Errrmm...Where did you get the idea that Merkel thinks a deal can be done? confused She's treated Johnson like a silly schoolboy - and he's behaving like one.

varian Fri 13-Sep-19 20:43:48

Here is labour MP @Meg_HillierMP explaining how now many labour leave voters in areas such as the North East are now understanding more about the ramifications of Brexit and they are changing their minds and are #RemainerNow. Indeed.

twitter.com/RemainerNow/status/1172594231157907456?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Welshwife Fri 13-Sep-19 18:48:37

If a referendum is a once in a lifetime decision why did we have one in 2016 when we had already had one in many people’s lifetime in 1975?

lemongrove Fri 13-Sep-19 18:23:30

Because we’ve had a public vote!

Highly unlikely there will be another one.

varian Fri 13-Sep-19 17:38:33

Remain Would Win 55-45 In Second Referendum, Poll Shows

www.lbc.co.uk/news/remain-55-45-second-referendum-brexit-poll/

This was a few weeks ago, but I think the margin would be greater now.

I wonder why the quitters don't want a public vote?

HootyMcOwlface Wed 11-Sep-19 22:15:50

assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/831199/20190802_Latest_Yellowhammer_Planning_assumptions_CDL.pdf

Someone on
Mumsnet posted it

Urmstongran Wed 11-Sep-19 22:12:53

Angela Merkel thinks a deal can be done. I hope so, then we can just get on with it and Leave.

That’s if the HoC vote for it.

I won’t be holding my breath.

growstuff Wed 11-Sep-19 21:48:56

I've been in the car quite a lot today and had the radio switched on. Every single current affairs/news programme had leavers in vox pop interviewers saying they wanted to get it over with/the government had messed up etc etc. Bias or what?

varian Wed 11-Sep-19 21:33:22

Revokation is the only way to stop this brexit nonsense.

That needs to be explained in words of one syllable to anyone who thinks that " just get it done" would mean the end, rather than just the beginning of this brexit nonsense.

Dinahmo Wed 11-Sep-19 21:25:17

I don't know any Remainers who want to leave the EU. Many people say they just want things sorted and this has been misinterpreted as we want to leave. They haven't been asked if they would like it sorted by the revocation of Article 50.

Dyffryn Wed 11-Sep-19 21:23:08

When I read the initial post and realised you were quoting from the express I switched off.

Deedaa Wed 11-Sep-19 21:13:30

The biggest problem remains the fact that they did not require a meaningful majority before they implemented the referendum. If they had asked for 60/40 or even better 70/30 the result would have been clear cut. As it is the numbers of remainers and leavers were almost equal and getting them to agree on anything has proved pretty much impossible.

varian Wed 11-Sep-19 21:01:33

It appears that not is all well in the land of unicorns.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7452187/Boris-Johnson-launches-extraordinary-attack-not-fit-proper-Nigel-Farage.html

GillT57 Wed 11-Sep-19 21:01:26

Thanks ww

Whitewavemark2 Wed 11-Sep-19 20:45:27

gill I’ve started a thread with a link

GillT57 Wed 11-Sep-19 20:36:36

Can't copy link as on phone rather than laptop but if you Google it there it is. Scary but predictable. Perhaps we remoaners should run a book on who will be first to cry 'Project Fear'.

FlyingSolo Wed 11-Sep-19 20:35:56

It has just been published. It is everywhere. Risk to water supply is low, not non existant, but low. And obviously lots of much bigger risks in major areas of day to day life. I think we are out of our minds to take our chances with a no deal brexit. Yes, I know we have been through worse but not deliberately.

GillT57 Wed 11-Sep-19 20:19:57

I have just read operation yellow hammer. Will try and find link.

varian Wed 11-Sep-19 19:50:12

I agree with the OP that "It seems the tide may be turning for Brexit", but not the way she has been informed by the Daily Express.

That is wishful thinking on their part,

The tide is turning because people are appalled by the behaviour of our so called PM brexit buffoon Boris Johnson and some are quite worried about the non disclosure of the Yellowhammer documents which Andrea Ledsom says cannot be published because they could frighten people.

Peolpe who still recite stupid mantras like "here we go WTO, bring it on" really really need to be given the facts that will certainly frighten them and make them think again.

Elegran Wed 11-Sep-19 19:36:16

If someone (for whatever motive) says something untrue in a TV interview, or drafts a leaflet that gives a false impression, does that become more legal than a law which says the opposite? This country is not governed by what is in leaflets, or by what a habitual liar says in the media, it is governed by the wording of laws and by their interpretation by an independent judiciary.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 11-Sep-19 18:44:53

Oh dear fake I’m afraid.

You.gov. Dated 22August

Remain 46%

Leave 42%

GillT57 Wed 11-Sep-19 18:41:23

I don't understand your question *Sarahellenwitney".

sarahellenwhitney Wed 11-Sep-19 16:56:22

What have been the benefits of EU membership that saw
a' leave' majority.

humptydumpty Wed 11-Sep-19 16:37:54

Agree 100% GillT57