I think I'm more cross about Frogmore Cottage than anything else in the H&M saga.

I agree, jo1book

Absolutely it’s up to the landlord - who in this case has decided that 2 independently wealthy people can pay for their own preferences in the renovations of a house they didn’t need and in which they only lived for a very short period of time.

That's up to the landlord SirChenjin there are some places where people are still charged a "peppercorn" rent. They still pay for renovations

Such an ugly house; it looks exactly what it is; cobbled together staff quarters.

Landlords who own the property and charge rent? And landlords who don’t want to pay two million pounds for renovations but who allow their tenants to choose these extras if they pay for them?

I think asking them to pay back is a bit of a cheek. How many landlords can recoup the cost of renovating property from their tenants? The value is in the property and the owner reaps the benefit not the tenant, especially when it's just a holiday home.

Don't get uptight, H&M want to pay back to the Royal purse all the costs incurred regarding Frogmore...

Thanks ReadyMeals, but I was thinking of the staff who lived in Frogmore Cottage before the refurbishment. It was so costly because five separate staff homes had to be converted into one dwelling for the Sussexes and this involved a lot of structural work. I feel sorry for these five and maybe they had spouses or families. All that upheaval for them and now the place isn't going to be used much.

Tea3 I read that they have been "redeployed" and are working in other parts of the estate. I guess they will be brought back on a temporary basis as and when the house is in use.

Apologies if someone has already mentioned this somewhere, but I wonder what has happened to the staff who used to live in Frogmore Cottage and how they feel about it now going to stand empty for much of the year. I know the place belongs to the Queen and they were 'staff' but they are humans who have made a place home and then at someone's whim they have had to re-locate with all the usual upheaval.

Upon further research it seems they will keep their titles - ie they still have the right to them, but will simply not use them. So they are still HRH THE Duke and Duchess of Sussex but will ask people to refer to them as Harry, Duke of Sussex etc as if it were what's known as a "style" and will ask people not to use HRH. In fact Harry already has history of this as he didn't start using his HRH until past when he would have been entitled to do so.

I guess even the Queen suspects there may come a time he wants back.

Did the garden ever get landscaped to their requirements?

Unlike the interior it will require constant maintenance.

I am downright miffed.

Drat! Gransnet members will no longer be able to book a fortnight after all.
I was so looking forward to the copper bath and the luxury fixtures and fittings.Grrrrrr.

I heard on the News that it will be when they are in residence, Calendargirl

That will be hardly ever then.

And they are going to pay a commercial rent for Frogmore, not sure if that’s all the time or just when they are in residence there.

They will be Harry, Duke of Sussex and Meghan, Duchess of Sussex.

The brand name Sussex Royal is still under discussion.

The Palace statement still calls them THE Duke and Duchess so I think the news outlets may have this wrong

Interestingly, after a while Sarah got her "The" back when everyone realised she was still married to Andrew in all but law, lol.

Won't they still be The Duke and Duchess of Sussex? Even that king who abdicated took his dukeship with him. News sites are saying he would be Harry, Duke of Sussex, but that's a style used by someone who is not really Duke of Sussex technically (eg Fergie was allowed to use Sarah, Duchess of York as what they called a "style" rather than a title, while Andrew was still The Duke of York but after divorce she was no longer THE duchess of york and had to drop the "the" and add "Sarah") . If Harry keeps his dukedom then they will continue to be titled THE Duke and Duchess and won't have to put their names instead of the "The".

It all sounds a very sensible arrangement.

Well you need be cross no more they are going to pay back the money spent on the house

Mr and Mrs Wales perhaps *Charleygirl

Although Harry will remain a Prince by birthright.

The Duke and Duchess was a title bestowed by HM.

Does that mean they are now Mr and Mrs Nobody?

haha evil plotters......I just happened up on The Royal House of Windsor......now Mountbatten , he really did some serious plotting. The puppet master. Sow your wild oats Charles was his advice.

btw Channel !5 now.