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Article 50

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Mair Thu 26-Jan-17 14:36:09

Well its been announced that Jeremy Corbyn is applying a three line whip to his MPs to make them support the triggering of article 50.

I admire Jeremy for this, it's an act of leadership, and it could save Labours bacon in the many Northern Brexit seats that they hold, so in that sense I am not entirely pleased because it will weaken UKIPs chances. It will also weaken Paul Nuttalls chances in Stoke.

What do the Bremain Labour supporters on GN feel about this?

Devorgilla Thu 26-Jan-17 14:54:20

Perhaps they will follow JC's lifelong Parliamentary stance of voting with their conscience. I am of the opinion that MPs from constituencies with a strong Remain vote should support those constituents, if only to make the point that a good settlement needs to be hammered out. I am resigned though to Article 50 being triggered as I think they will have a Brexit majority.

durhamjen Thu 26-Jan-17 14:59:21

So you are a Ukipper.
Do you agree with Nuttall that the NHS should be privatised?
I don't think Nuttall needs Corbyn's help to talk himself out of the Stoke seat.

Hard one, Devorgilla. I'd like to know what the lawyers think.

Anniebach Thu 26-Jan-17 15:00:10

I don't admire a man who applies the whip after voting against the party whip 428 times . He has to accept if MP's vote with their conscience and vote against they are just following his example

Mair Thu 26-Jan-17 15:04:31

I would like to see UKIP have a voice in parliament certainly.

suzied Thu 26-Jan-17 17:54:36

They've already got one MP haven't they?

whitewave Thu 26-Jan-17 18:00:13

mair I have been trying to find a UKIP manifesto, but in its abscence have had to fall back on Nuttall charming utterances and previous UKIP publications. I'd be grateful if you could point out where I can find a UKIP manifesto.

Anniebach Thu 26-Jan-17 18:04:00

Any mention of UKIP and I am reminded of Neil Hamilton, yuck

whitewave Thu 26-Jan-17 18:09:24

What a creep. Both him and his wife are a pair of chancers

daphnedill Thu 26-Jan-17 18:21:21

Labour MPs Daniel Zeichner (Cambridge) and Ben Bradshaw (Exeter) have also said they will vote against triggering Article 50. Both represent constituencies which voted Remain. In the case of Cambridge, over 71% voted Remain. I wonder if anything will happen to them.

whitewave Thu 26-Jan-17 18:25:04

And my MP

suzied Thu 26-Jan-17 18:27:15

The only consolation is that UKIP seem to be a party which doesn't agree amongst itself. The members seem to fall out at the drop of a hat.

rosesarered Thu 26-Jan-17 18:32:57

Don't all the parties?

rosesarered Thu 26-Jan-17 18:34:08

Good for Corbyn, the only bit of leadership he has shown.

whitewave Thu 26-Jan-17 18:35:12

At least the main stream parties have a manifesto that we can all read. UKIP doesn't appear to know what it stands for except bigotry

daphnedill Thu 26-Jan-17 18:35:22

If Nuttall wins, will he have to resign from being an MEP? Not that it really matters. His attendance has been 736th out of 756 MEPs. He'll be too busy making sure he doesn't get stabbed in the back to do anything for Stoke.

daphnedill Thu 26-Jan-17 18:36:44

roses I don't think they punch each other unconscious - or maybe they're just better at cover-ups?

whitewave Thu 26-Jan-17 18:38:07


Anniebach Thu 26-Jan-17 18:58:13

Whitewave, the leader of the Libs in Wales and Plaid Cymru are both female, they voted for Carwen for leader and in the Senydd he referred to them as the first ministers concubines. Needless to say Leanne blew a fuse , he had to apologise to the two women and to the assembly

Welshwife Thu 26-Jan-17 19:33:56

I so agree with what Kirsty is doing with the Infant schools Annie - wish someone had done it sooner.

varian Thu 26-Jan-17 19:36:17

Kirsty Williams is a brilliant Liberal Democrat who is quite prepared to work with others to help the people she has been elected to serve.

rosesarered Thu 26-Jan-17 19:38:22

On 'punching each other'......who knows what goes on in the bar in Westminster when they have had a few?grin

daphnedill Thu 26-Jan-17 19:40:50

Indeed! As I wrote, they're probably more competent at cover-ups.

whitewave Thu 26-Jan-17 19:42:44

Competent and UKIP are not words you would associate together

daphnedill Thu 26-Jan-17 19:48:45

Thank you for pointing that out.

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