No Deal and supply of medicines

if you or your family need regular supplies of medicine- you should realise that 'mithering' about the price of baked beans or spam, wherever you choose to buy them ...maybe the least of your worries,

I know it is the Independent, so perhaps just middle-class leftie mitherings:

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-drugs-medicine-shortages-medication-nhs-final-say-eu-uk-a8579921.html?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1539302360

It seems we have such a healthy ageing community on GN- so healthy and fit that none of them are concerned that medicines and cancer treatment, will be in short, or no supply if we get a no Deal Brexit.

They don't sell them at Aldi btw.

I was told by a friend just yesterday that he discovered his elderly mum has been stockpiling her "meds just in case" she has also discovered where she can buy some of them online from abroad.Not what any 80 + person should have to worry about ,especially as she has some chronic illnesses that need daily multiple doses .

Jura2, just another example of silence from the Brexit fans. It must be getting harder and harder for them to find a good reason for this debacle.........

Indeed.

I am glad I will be able to get hold of Epipens for my grandson, who is highly anaphylactic to eggs. Not quite sure how I will get them over to him, as the Tunnel might close, the M26 will be a car park, ferries will be blocked, and no flights - but I will find a way. Better get some swimming practice.

I might even bring insulin for a relative who is a staunch Brexiter ... Won't be able to carry radiotherapy treatment for those with cancer though

Maybe, all current scaremongering "news items" have one purpose only - namely to soften us for another referendum or an excuse for a very soft Brexit (thereby exiting the EU in name only and keeping everything else). If everybody is frightened enough, perhaps nobody will complain about the mess this will create for many years to come.

Planet Earth is made up of more than the countries currently in the EU.

The current level of scaremongering on some threads is borderline hysteria.

We were told we would be doomed when we didn't join the euro, but years down the line isn't it true that we have the lowest level of unemployment across the EU, particularly in the under 25 age group. Look at Italian debt to the ECB along with Greece.

Medication is sourced from across the globe, as is our food.

I for one am not about to start panic buying food or hoarding my daily medication (yes I have what is classed as a life threatening illness) which in fact could cause shortages.

I imagine both Brexiters and Remainers have had enough of your crazed mitherings jura so no point engaging any more with you.

One of the problems with the supply of meds is that pharmaceutical companies specialise in certain types of drugs - hence no U.K. company makes insulin. There are also a lot of fake drugs on the market so the source of drugs is very important.
The isotopes for radiotherapy machine only have a life of about 6 hours and if they have not been primed less than 3 days so speed of delivery is very important and makes supply from countries further away almost impossible. These are one of the imports which really cannot be delayed at all.

If its scaremongering then blame the tory government who started the "rumour" about medical supplies !! Might mean theres no need for their minister for suicide if folk are dying due to lack of meds ,maybe thats the idea!!

lemongrove - your comment is absolutely and totally out of order, and against Forum Etiquette. I won't report it- because I really do not care- but I'd say it is time to learn to discuss and debate, rather than throw your personal, and extremely rude attacks instead.

The facts about the accessibility of drugs and radiation therapy are straight from the Government's mouth - and is a REAL concern from those who require those drugs and treatment for their survival- it is hugely sad that you just don't seem to care- and put your venom before you.

THIS is from the Chief Executive of the Association of Pharmaceuticals, officially reporting to Committee recently.
PLEASE, do watch, do listen - and then write to him and tell him about his crazed mitherings.

So, none of you can come up with any solutions to anything, be it the Irish border, be it anything at all - and you have the incredible rudeness to talk about 'crazed mitherings' with reference to real concerns from experts.

My very best friend here has just been diagnosed with cancer- and I am so so glad he lives here and will have access to the best treatment, medicines and if required raditation therapy.

Please, get in touch with any of your friends suffering from cancer- and tell them not to mither, crazily, or otherwise.

I am angry now, really - but I will refrain from being rude or personal- however tempting at this stage.

www.facebook.com/FullEnglishBrexit/videos/1929957283964805/

Please at least be open minded and caring enough to listen to him, the Head of the Pharmaceutical Association. He knows what Brexit will actually mean.

I have in fact reported your post lemongrove, as it is totally personal, rude and unacceptable.

I don't think it is, jura (lemon's post, that is). You have often implied that those of us who voted to leave are one croissant short of a continental breakfast. We're just getting a bit sick of it, that's all.

Calling someone crazed is very rude and implies that any opinions being expressed can be laughed at or ignored.

I don't think it was said that jura is crazed Eloethan - goodness me! - just that the mitherings could be - a word which jura herself used in the OP.

A Midlands word I think, one that my DM used frequently when I was a child, as in 'Oh, stop mithering will you!' - ie 'stop pestering me'.

Merlot- I never implied or said anything of the sort.

And it IS very rude.

Why not reply with solutions? I can assure you it is exhausting trying to discuss or debate anything with people who refused to engage and propose solutions or counter arguments - instead of repeated, and rude personal atttacks.

Could you please respond to the comments and warnings made by the Head of the Pharmaceutical Association. Is he crazed, or mithering?

45 million packs of medicine per month go from here to the EU
37 million packs of medicine per month come here from the EU.

It is in the interests of both the UK and the EU to come to an agreement - it is just as imperative as there could be an EU wide shortage of medicines sent to the EU from here.

Do not worry too much about insulin for your friend - we have a big manufacturer here in the UK which is stockpiling.
There is, however, a problem at present with the supply of Epi-pens and I presume your DGC's parents are aware of this as it has been widely broadcast:
www.epipen.co.uk/

ps the shortage of epipens is nothing to do with Brexit btw, it is world-wide for some reason.
So it is imperative to hold on to the ones that patients have even if they are out of date.

I'm afraid that the UK only makes a very small amount of human based insulin. We import almost all from the EU.

www.diabettech.com/brexit/fact-checking-sir-michael-rawlins-statements-in-relation-to-insulin-and-brexit-should-we-be-worried/

Again, don't trust me- but do read the experts in the field. I trust them more than the Government.

The Epipen current shortage may well not be due to Brexit - but the impossibility of importing Epipens from EU will be.

For most drugs, for the EU, they will have access to alternative sources, from within the EU or the 41 countries they have current and well established agreements with.

In the case of a world shortage, do you think the EU will prioritise their own members and alllies - or the UK. Especially when Sterling is so low.

Could just be that the brexiteers don’t need to engage in debate. We are leaving the EU-let the powers that be get on with it.
However you voted you are probably not getting just what you wanted. I’m sorry for those who are worrying about their medications and, hopefully, it will all be sorted out.
The die is cast Jura and no matter how upset you get it won’t make any difference. Try to chill.