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Cummings to sort out the army

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growstuff Wed 08-Jul-20 10:14:54

When I first saw this clip from a meeting between Conservative MP and the Chief of the Defence Staff, General Nick Carter, I honestly thought it was a hoax, but it would appear to be genuine:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAGrra1e89c

Comments?

growstuff Wed 08-Jul-20 10:15:25

Ooops! Conservative MP Mark Francois

Whitewavemark2 Wed 08-Jul-20 10:18:58

I had to tip a grin when I read it. It was in the paper a few days ago.

Cummings is beyond parody I think, as is Mark Francois.

Pantglas2 Wed 08-Jul-20 10:19:32

I suspect he has enough on his plate sorting out the Civil service Growstuff! They’ll tie him up in knots before the next election and then he’ll be gone anyway!

growstuff Wed 08-Jul-20 10:31:23

Well, I hope you're right Pantglas. It was the way Francois spoke to him which genuinely took my breath away. Not only did he say "bl**dy", but he sounded like a two year old threatening somebody with his Mum.

And this is the man who used to brag about his military background until it was discovered he was in the TA catering corps.

Callistemon Wed 08-Jul-20 10:41:32

hmm

It's such a short clip, taken out of context, so it's difficult to tell if it's a threat or a friendly warning imo.

Presumably Francois exactly knows what Cummings is like.
In some countries the Army would take charge of Cummings, of course.
We can only dream.

growstuff we know someone like that, you'd think he was at least a Commodore or possibly an Admiral but he had only served in the RNR for a couple of years.

FarNorth Wed 08-Jul-20 10:48:35

Is there no end to DC's talents?

MaizieD Wed 08-Jul-20 10:48:36

Friendly warning!? shock shock shock

I'd be rather pleased if the army were to sort Cummings out... grin

growstuff Wed 08-Jul-20 10:49:18

There's a longer clip available, but I only posted the short version because people generally don't like long links/clips.

growstuff Wed 08-Jul-20 10:50:28

MaizieD

Friendly warning!? shock shock shock

I'd be rather pleased if the army were to sort Cummings out... grin

If he's not careful, maybe they will. The army swears allegiance to the crown not the government. hmm

MaizieD Wed 08-Jul-20 10:52:20

Just what I was thinking, growstuff.

A military coup! That would considerably add to the gaiety of 2020, wouldn't it...

FarNorth Wed 08-Jul-20 11:01:42

What is the gist of the longer clip growstuff?
Are the army failing badly, or what?

Whitewavemark2 Wed 08-Jul-20 11:03:06

It’s on YouTube north

Callistemon Wed 08-Jul-20 11:03:31

the Army swears allegiance to The Crown
Yes, but Cummings thinks he's King with absolute power.

janeainsworth Wed 08-Jul-20 11:09:25

Well the General didn't look too fazed, did he grin

Callistemon Wed 08-Jul-20 11:09:43

If procurement is at fault then, yes, it does need sorting out.
Money is wasted.

Callistemon Wed 08-Jul-20 11:16:44

Ps but arrogance does not produce results.
Francois doesn't seem to realise that.

Hetty58 Wed 08-Jul-20 11:19:52

Cummings used as a threat, yes, I completely get that. Who wouldn't be scared of the prospect of him sorting things out?

Callistemon Wed 08-Jul-20 11:22:35

Hetty58

Cummings used as a threat, yes, I completely get that. Who wouldn't be scared of the prospect of him sorting things out?

The Chief of the Defence Staff?
Probably why he laughed.

Callistemon Wed 08-Jul-20 11:24:09

This government telling the Armed Forces that their procurement processes are a shambles is surely the pot calling the kettle black.

Oopsminty Wed 08-Jul-20 11:26:02

Mark Francois is renowned for his delivery

There was no threat at all

It was rather amusing, that's all.

At least it was to those who understand

Whitewavemark2 Wed 08-Jul-20 11:26:35

oopsminty😄😄😄

Callistemon Wed 08-Jul-20 11:28:57

I agree with Oopsminty

I think the response to Cummings coming to sort out the Armed Forces might be:
"You and whose Army"?

I expect they're all quivering in their boots.

GillT57 Wed 08-Jul-20 11:30:04

Mark Francois is a silly little man, trying to get in with the 'big boys' who are probably laughing at home. More worrying is the fact that 40,000 people in his constituency thought he was a good choice!

GrannyGravy13 Wed 08-Jul-20 11:43:48

GillT57

Mark Francois is a silly little man, trying to get in with the 'big boys' who are probably laughing at home. More worrying is the fact that 40,000 people in his constituency thought he was a good choice!

His constituency is next to mine, and apparently he is a good constituency MP.