Thank you Britain for signing up to destroy my home

The photo to go with title, of an orangutan simply won’t post.

But I will keep trying.

Will this do, WW?

😄👍 excellent!

And me

When we were on holiday in The Maldives, we experienced a couple of days of hazy sunshine, and were told that it was because of the forests being burned in Malaysia. Imagine the fear and pain those wonderful apes are going through.

Look at a map and the distance between the Maldives and Malaysia.

I weep at our inhumanity.

It is absolutely unbearable WW
We are such an evil species.
I’m going to get stick for this, but I do think it will be a good thing when we eventually get wiped out.
We are like a vile virus destroying our host

Maybe if they had stayed with Europe they would have been discouraged from making deals like this.

nanna8

Maybe if they had stayed with Europe they would have been discouraged from making deals like this.

Yes- the EU has rules in place.

I lived in Malaya as a child. I loved it there. It is so sad to see everything happening there now.

I signed a petition about this a couple of days ago but didn’t realise it was down to this trade deal. I’ll try to find it and do a link.

Absolutely awful, and only possible because of Brexit.

Just appalling. Check labels and don’t buy anything that uses palm oil. Every little bit helps.

It’s in so many things tickingbird

Anyone watch Kemi Badenoch explain that the Uk buys about 1 per cent of its palm oil from Malaysia and that dropping the tariff from 2 per cent to 0 is not going to cause deforestation in Malaysia? Palm oil is actually a very good product.

Also the EU buys in products which are also harmful to the environment. So swings and roundabouts come to mind…….

FannyCornforth

It is absolutely unbearable WW
We are such an evil species.
I’m going to get stick for this, but I do think it will be a good thing when we eventually get wiped out.
We are like a vile virus destroying our host

It was reported on a programme a while ago that there are only 1,030 (?) Highland gorillas left in the world.

I said to DH "Imagine if the news report said 'there are only 1,030 humans left in the world'"

He replied dourly "Well, at least the Earth might have a chance to recover".

This is just not acceptable, we had a chance to make a difference here.

nanna8

Maybe if they had stayed with Europe they would have been discouraged from making deals like this.

Australia is part of this group, nanna8 ☹

Yes it seems to be in so much.

I think that the best way is to cook absolutely everything from scratch using butter where necessary and never margarine. But it is also in shampoo, cosmetics etc.

I’m sure if the movement was large enough, products would display the fact that they didn’t use or sell palm oil.

I am hoping that future governments can withdraw from the Malaysia agreement.

I see that the USA has withdrawn because of the low standards, with no benefit.

ronib

Anyone watch Kemi Badenoch explain that the Uk buys about 1 per cent of its palm oil from Malaysia and that dropping the tariff from 2 per cent to 0 is not going to cause deforestation in Malaysia? Palm oil is actually a very good product.

Also the EU buys in products which are also harmful to the environment. So swings and roundabouts come to mind…….

What are you talking about😡.

ronib

Anyone watch Kemi Badenoch explain that the Uk buys about 1 per cent of its palm oil from Malaysia and that dropping the tariff from 2 per cent to 0 is not going to cause deforestation in Malaysia? Palm oil is actually a very good product.

Also the EU buys in products which are also harmful to the environment. So swings and roundabouts come to mind…….

Ohhh look, a flying pig...

The UK buys about 1% of Malaysia's palm oil. That's not the same as what you wrote.

This was the driver to leave the EU. An avoidance of checks and balances. Let's just line our pockets and to hell with the repercussions.

volver3 what exactly are you trying to say?

Daisymae

This was the driver to leave the EU. An avoidance of checks and balances. Let's just line our pockets and to hell with the repercussions.

I wonder why it’s okay to keep the UK in poverty? The EU is not perfect and in any case, we’re out of it. I really object to being stuck with the mindset that keeps this country from moving on and up.

This is what I'm trying to say:

The UK doesn't buy 1% of its palm oil from Malaysia, it buys 1% of Malaysia's palm oil. These 2 things are not the same.

Kemi says palm oil is a good product. How? What makes it good?

The tariff situation does not scale; if there are no tariffs at all the we will buy more of it and hence cause more damage.

Just because Kami says it, doesn't make it true.

It makes sense to try and find out what Kemi Badenoch had to say on the deal as you do have a very partisan approach to presenting your side of a story.
Doesn’t mean I agree with either of you but a fuller perspective is important surely?