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Gonegirl Tue 09-Jul-19 16:43:46

Brendan O'Neill in the Spectator

rosecarmel Fri 12-Jul-19 04:28:57

Here, on Earth, humans have a lengthy history of treating each other or groups of people as inferior -- or skewed- We've also a lengthy history of fighting for rights, for ourselves and others as well-

Some folks enjoy having stuff rammed down their throats, or ramming stuff down another's throat or enjoy partaking in complaining that having stuff rammed down their throat ain't their cup of tea- Its all the same-

A friend is a friend - Gay or straight-

GabriellaG54 Thu 11-Jul-19 23:38:46

I think heterosexuals are worth a mention.
Why on earthdoes anyone want to be lauded for their sexual habits?
Why aren't friends just friends instead of 'my gay friend' or 'gay nephew' ' lesbian daughter' 'trans cousin'?
Why announce them in this way, as if it's a badge of honour if you know someone who could be described in that manner?

GabriellaG54 Thu 11-Jul-19 23:29:56

n ir k ow others at
nor, know, other way.

GabriellaG54 Thu 11-Jul-19 23:27:12

IMV, your sexual habits are a private matter, not for broadcasting to the world.
I neither want n ir need to k ow whether you take it front or back or any others at, nor with whom you engage in these acts, so don't be surprised that I'm sick to the back teeth of minority views and ramming your skewed sexual mores down my heterosexual throat.

rosecarmel Wed 10-Jul-19 18:49:30

Appalling responses to an interesting article!

rosecarmel Wed 10-Jul-19 18:45:43

Nobody is asking for extra eggs in the pudding, to be treated as special but seen and treated as equal- Obviously, people need to be reminded! Look at some of the comments in this thread! How anyone can think homophobia is over is a riot- I don't believe for a moment that most don't encounter inequality, I do believe that many dismiss it- It isn't them that's gay, black or any other MINORITY, so why the heck would they care? I'll tell you why- It's because they are "special" and have been since?

No, I'm not gay- I'm straight-

PamelaJ1 Wed 10-Jul-19 17:58:57

Well Olderthan most, I’ll share my sexuality.
I am totally absolutely heterosexual.
If I had any doubts they were put to rest when I was ‘approached’, -don’t know if this is the correct word. I did think that lesbians would be more intuitive.
Having said that I have no problem what consenting adults do amongst themselves.
Rose- I presume that I am one of the ignorant because the people I associate with are pretty open minded so I don’t come across the bigoted folk that still abound. Sorry.

Gonegirl Wed 10-Jul-19 14:09:49

Thanks Olderthanmost. smile

Olderthanmost Wed 10-Jul-19 14:05:48

Gone
Thanks for opening what is by and large a good conversation.

Gonegirl Wed 10-Jul-19 13:26:08

And don't you dare call me ignorant!

Gonegirl Wed 10-Jul-19 13:24:59

And that "who hoo stuff" is straight out of the sixth form. hmm

Gonegirl Wed 10-Jul-19 13:23:54

shock Where did I say that gay people had achieved nothing? I think you totally misunderstood my post. Gay people individually will have achieved just as much as the non gay population. And the Pride marches have achieved a lot in the way of acceptance.

No need to attack me. I simply started this thread as I thought it might be interesting. Wish I hadn't bothered now. hmm

dragonfly46 Wed 10-Jul-19 13:21:40

I really do not care about anyone's sexuality as long as they are good people but I am sort of sorry they coined the word gay. When I was at school I had a friend called Gay and it meant happy and joyful.

Olderthanmost Wed 10-Jul-19 13:17:01

Rose
Be calm.
Many people understand.
None of my business but if you would like to share your sexual preference...
I think I'm bi

rosecarmel Wed 10-Jul-19 13:11:38

Homophobia is over and done with people! Woo hoo! Hang out the Union Jack! Let's have a parade!

And people make fun of Tump's igorant Tweets!

rosecarmel Wed 10-Jul-19 13:01:51

There are many things in our lives that serve as constant reminders of our collective past- We "cannot" "get on with it" without them in place because without them in place we are prone to repeating our past again and again despite the fact that we get tired of being reminded- Gay or straight- Black or white- Catholic or Hasidic- It doesn't matter-

What Maybelle expressed is correct-

If you look at photos of the first march on June 28th 1970 and compare them to photos taken June 28th 2019 you will notice that the element of pride remains despite the fact that marketers have capitalized on that pride-

The struggle continues- It isn't over and done with- Although it may seem that way to some, including gays- And of course idiots who have no idea what they are talking about but talk anyway-

Gonegirl, it truly is ignorant on your part to express that you don't see what what gays have achieved and to think that homophobia is gone- Ignorant- Period- And yet marks a perfect example of why marches continue- Thank you for that-

Olderthanmost Wed 10-Jul-19 12:45:38

I think it's important to recognise that any society or any element of society that has ever been oppressed will eventually become the oppressor for a short period of time. The pendulum will always swing in the opposite direction to too far before it settles into an even keil.
No one is totally heterosexual or homosexual. We are all sexual beings and have the right to and even a duty to explore sexuality in relation to the opposite sex and same sex. I believe that when this kind of openness would be the norm in our society we would be much healthier and it would reduce the numbers of sex crimes and sexual assaults in our world

Maybelle Wed 10-Jul-19 09:04:48

I always thought that the Pride element of Gay Pride, was to take pride and ownership of who you are. The freedom from being made to hide your sexuality, being made to feel that you should apologise for not being "normal" .

Bathsheba Wed 10-Jul-19 08:21:41

But I've always been puzzled by the "Pride" bit. I think you have to have some kind of achievement to be proud of something. Why would you need to be proud of being gay, anymore than you would be of being heterosexual?

Me too Gonegirl. Furthermore I strongly suspect that if heterosexuals proclaimed pride in their sexuality, they would be accused of homophobia hmm

LullyDully Wed 10-Jul-19 08:05:34

My husband wants a straight pride day.

PamelaJ1 Wed 10-Jul-19 05:56:50

Day6, well put.
As you say, most of us have gay or lesbians as friends or family members. They are just like us, they get on with life and none of us make a ‘thing’ of it.
Maybe it’s time for them to move on and merge in.
There will, unfortunately, always be very ignorant people in the world who will not accept, the girls on the bus incident springs to mind, but hopefully they will lessen.
The transgender question is very different IMO because it involves such a lot of medication and surgery. What concerns me is the push to diagnose very young children.

CanadianGran Tue 09-Jul-19 19:11:56

Day 6 - good post. I agree with your sentiments.
My gay nephew posted how sick and tired he was of all the flags... and the rampant commercialism it has promoted.

The other day I was admiring these shoes, and realized I might be advertising incorrectly. I'm so confused... if I wear rainbow anything, am I being political, or just colourful?

Framilode Tue 09-Jul-19 18:38:57

For once I agree with everything you say Day 6.

PamGeo Tue 09-Jul-19 18:38:23

Here here

Gonegirl Tue 09-Jul-19 18:34:15

I like your post Day6. Well, I agree with all the posts on this thread so far.