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Bon voyage Greta Thunberg

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Gonegirl Tue 13-Aug-19 22:27:42

You're a brave girl.

Be safe.

SirChenjin Thu 15-Aug-19 12:40:19

Agree maddy

GrannyGravy13 Thu 15-Aug-19 12:50:34

GGMK3 if you had read my post of yesterday at 18.44.03 you will see that myself and family take climate change very seriously.

Suziewoozie, Greta said that she was taking a year out of education to concentrate on climate change in one of her interviews.

Cold Thu 15-Aug-19 13:14:36

Can those that keep ranting on about eye-contact/she's not autistic please educate themselves about female presentation of autism. Seriously ill-informed comments like these are one of the reason that autistic girls struggle to be diagnosed

Many people obviously still believe only the outdated stereotypes of male Asperger presentation. Whereas girls present very differently as they are adept at observing and copying behaviours. My dd1 makes eye-contact - it didn't come naturally when she was very young but she is intelligent and has learned that this is "what people do" - very much like learning another language.

Teenage Swedes also speak very good English. DD2 had high school friends who are fluent and wrote their high school projects in English rather than Swedish. Swedish youngsters are also expected to be able to read and discuss University texts in English once start University

suziewoozie Thu 15-Aug-19 14:40:06

Yes I know she’s taken a year out but it’s a free choice she can make because she’s past school leaving age - not a privilege granted as GrannyGravy suggested. That was my point.

paddyann Thu 15-Aug-19 15:11:02

"Many of usoldies know whats what with regard to climate change but many more either aren't interested or deny its happening a la D J Trump.
Greta has brought it back into the limelight for some who will take it onboard simply because she's not the green leftie in a crumpled suit they think of when climate change is mentioned.
Young people may be aware but will often take more heed if the message comes from someone their own age or generation than an old fuddy duddy .My own GD's are all quite up to speed and one in particular won an award for climate change videos she made, shes 12 .Every little helps and we should be firmly behind Greta in her fight for the planet

suzied Thu 15-Aug-19 16:42:50

I think oldies saying "she hasn't changed my view" are ignoring the fact that maybe she is influencing those of her own generation? Surely that is the relevant point. If by sailing the boat and getting some publicity it influences others to listen to the message and maybe act on it that got to be good surely?

M0nica Thu 15-Aug-19 17:01:03

But it is the older people who are in a position to make the changes necessary: develop the technologies, apply them, build them and finance them.

varian Thu 15-Aug-19 17:23:34

I'm sure you're proud of your GD's Paddyann, especially the one who won the award for climate change.

I'm very proud of mine as they are all very aware of the danger of climate change. Two are vegans, one a vegetarian and one has just decided not to pursue her ambition to be an airline pilot because it is incompatable with being an environmental activist. They all know about Greta Thunberg and listen to her warnings.

lmm6 Fri 16-Aug-19 07:36:45

I agree with HappiYogi.

merlotgran Fri 16-Aug-19 10:42:07

I don't envy her heading for the Azores at the moment. DSiL is also sailing in that direction but in a RN Destroyer, not a racing yacht and he's relying heavily on his Stugeron patches!

Callistemon Fri 16-Aug-19 16:51:15

I used to find I didn't feel as sick when it was rough, perhaps it concentrates the mind. A gentle swell is worse imo.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 16-Aug-19 17:05:52

In one of the Swedish Newspapers it is being reported that “5 crew members” are flying from Germany to New York to crew the yacht back.

Callistemon Fri 16-Aug-19 17:07:28

Speechless (for once!)

SirChenjin Fri 16-Aug-19 18:08:57

No - surely not shock

Callistemon Fri 16-Aug-19 18:10:17

grin

Callistemon Fri 16-Aug-19 18:11:46

Oh!
Was that for me or GG13's post SirChenjin?

Alexa Fri 16-Aug-19 18:18:28

I am surprised at the amount of negative ideas among the grans, about Greta Thunberg. A little disappointed.

I am and will always be grateful to her for her hard work in today's most urgent cause , and I thank the seafarers who are taking her on her journey.

SirChenjin Fri 16-Aug-19 18:48:01

It was for GG13 Callistemon - sorry, I should have made that clearer!

Although... winkgringrin

Callistemon Fri 16-Aug-19 22:42:24

grin

Alexa I think most of the posts are thoughtful and reasonable.

suziewoozie Fri 16-Aug-19 22:47:54

A bit of context

abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/sailing-team-fly-crew-us-bring-thunberg-boat-65021301

Callistemon Fri 16-Aug-19 23:03:12

So that's OK then!

I don't think there is anyone on this thread arguing about the fact that we need all the brilliant minds we have to find solutions to the problems and we can all claim to be offsetting our carbon emissions whilst also claiming that our journeys are essential.

I hope to see a new forest surrounding Frogmore being ceremoniously planted very soon, too. PH and MM only have to shovel in a small spadeful of loose earth with a new pristine spade, the estate workers will do all the hard work.
Easy peasy.

Callistemon Fri 16-Aug-19 23:12:03

here is how to salve your conscience.

Or just stay at home.

Minniemoo Fri 16-Aug-19 23:12:26

The ironic thing about all this is the fact that the carbon emissions will be far greater that had she just jumped on a plane. Dozens of worldwide photographers congregated to see her off. How did they get there? The same when she lands.

She has her message but the real problems such as billions of cows, agriculture, cars and of course China who don't give 2 hoots. It's just a circus really. With a good message but not earth saving whatsoever.

I feel for Greta. She's very young. She's had severe emotional issues when growing up. She's fragile. And having all these adults adulating her is not ideal.

janipat Fri 16-Aug-19 23:13:07

Exactly Callistemon, it reeks of Emma Thompson and her justification that she plants lots of trees. Every passenger on a plane gets offered to offset their carbon emission by paying for trees to be planted. Just make it compulsory and we're sorted. Or maybe not.

Callistemon Fri 16-Aug-19 23:13:58

Yes, I do hope she will be all right long-term.