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earnshaw Thu 15-Oct-20 19:03:57

is it just me thats being a little old fashioned but i can remember,, my favourite era , the 60s , and how some of the songs were banned by the BBC for certain lyrics which today would be ludicrous , but now,,,,,, the rappers lyrics, well, what can i say , how on earth do they get away with it, where are the snowflakes when you need them, my grandaughter , 13, was listening to one and then switched off saying , cant listen to that, ,,, wondering what was going on , i listened to cardi b, a rapper, have a listen and see what you think

jaylucy Sun 13-Dec-20 11:13:06

I have to wonder if todays teens actually will remember lyrics of todays music like many of us do of the music of our teen years.
I think over time, what many would class as swearing or bad language is so prevalent amongst younger people that it has become the norm and so is not really noticed. You only have to walk past a group of teens and the F word is often used every other word so just becomes a term of anger or expression rather than an expletive.
I am one of the admins on a community FB group and a lot of my time is spent removing posts with swearing in and often end up having either an online argument with the person that posted it asking why their comment has been deleted ! I might add that these are from people that are in their 30s +, not teenagers!

Phloembundle Sun 13-Dec-20 11:14:53

I'm happy to say I know nothing about rap (music!!!!!!) lyrics as I only listen to radio 4 or my ancient CD player.

Tweedle24 Sun 13-Dec-20 11:20:08

Phloebundle Me too. Radio 4 for talk and Classic FM for music.
Trouble is, I am now curious about the words that offend ?

grannie7 Sun 13-Dec-20 11:34:11

I am sorry if this offends anyone but my view is that this behaviour and music -not that I would call it music
is mostly down to “Social Media “ ie: facebook, youtube etc etc
don’t know the names of half of them.
These sites allow such “** to be published.Youngsters seem to follow slavishly what ever is on there so sad.

Whatdayisit Sun 13-Dec-20 11:35:11

Since watching The Crown we have being trying to speak a little more proper! I did enjoy the racey Princess Margaret episode where her photo in the paper at the end made Prince Phillip declare "Oh I say!"!

grannie7 Sun 13-Dec-20 11:35:46

sorry JayLucy
posted before I saw your post

Daisend1 Sun 13-Dec-20 11:37:53

Sign of the times.?No one forces us to listen the same applies to TV, we watch or switch to something else.Different subject but has anyone watched Naked Attraction? now that is a sad /sick person who feels the need to chose a partner by first looking at their private parts.

Paperbackwriter Sun 13-Dec-20 11:44:20

"t's the age we live in I'm afraid with the focus on the younger members of society"
Nothing new there. In the 60s and ever since the focus has always been on the young. We, back then, thought we were the centre of the universe in such a brave new wonderful age. It's for us to step aside now and understand that every new generation feels just the same.

Delila Sun 13-Dec-20 11:59:58

We paved the way in the sixties with our dismantling of all sorts of taboos & restrictions. Older generations were appalled at the freedoms we took for ourselves. Since then we have become progressively more desensitised in so many aspects of our lives. It takes far more nowadays to shock, and the result is what we see and hear around us, young people expressing themselves in new ways, just as we did.

Purplepoppies Sun 13-Dec-20 12:14:14

And yet the original lyrics of Fairy Tale of New York is banned on Radio One..... complete nonsense really ??‍♀️

Luckygirl Sun 13-Dec-20 12:17:41

You can actually hear the lyrics??? [puzzled]

Health Sun 13-Dec-20 12:50:46

Hi, why not give her a promise in a card of a lunch out next year when life gets back to normal?☺️

gillyknits Sun 13-Dec-20 13:43:46

It’s o.k to say that we don’t need to listen but our grandchildren do listen, because they follow the trends and their peers.b

BlueBelle Sun 13-Dec-20 13:59:09

Oh roxie do you see Fart as a rude word it’s an every day word which I m sure you’re granddaughter will probably use too
delila you are right we paved the way with free love psychedelic drugs the pill and rock and roll our parents were I m sure just as shocked when Elvis trust his pelvis and Tom Jones caught the girls knickers imagine that happening in our parents time
Many words that were rude or unused in our day are now just regular words and although they might sound horrific to our ears they sound as normal as ‘how are you’ to a young persons ears The f word is the equivalent of ‘whoops’ to our grandkids we can’t bear it because it’s engrained in our heads as a dreadful word not to be used
Lyrics have always been a bit iffy just more hidden in our songs but you can bet your bottom dollar the meaning was still there

moggie57 Sun 13-Dec-20 14:42:28

They coming to take me away haha

FlexibleFriend Sun 13-Dec-20 14:51:19

I simply don't have a problem with it. I wouldn't listen to Cardie B from choice but defend her right to sing about her body using whatever words she deems fit. I've never been easily shocked and seem to be becoming less and less shockable. Each to their own.

petra Sun 13-Dec-20 14:53:34

grannie7
Younger people wouldn't be seen dead watching YouTube or posting on FB. Those sites are for old/older people.

petra Sun 13-Dec-20 15:02:15

Roxie
I think this titbit would have given you a touch of the vapours.
OH and I had to pick up grandaughter from school. As usual we asked what lessons she did that day ( she's 11)
Sex education came the answer. I asked for more details: masturbation came the answer. No embarrassment. I found it a wonderful healthy attitude.

Grandmama Sun 13-Dec-20 16:02:59

Radio 4 fan here - I haven't heard of half the people mentioned here! Nor have I heard the songs I've just read about.

Atqui Sun 13-Dec-20 16:14:57

I don’t know any of these lyrics ,but I don’t understand the “You don’t have to listen” attitude , if these songs express sexual violence or degradation of women. We don’t have to read racist or mysogenistic stuff but we don’t condone it ( I hope) We don’t have to watch pornography either, but it is causing untold damage to young people , in their attitudes to sex .

Greciangirl Sun 13-Dec-20 17:37:43

Next time a rapper comes on the t.v., switch on the subtitles.

I did this the other night when a female rapper was singing.
I couldn’t quite believe the lyrics.
Mostly, you can’t understand the lyrics without the subtitles.
Quite an eye opener.
Try it.

Lucretzia Sun 13-Dec-20 17:51:33

Have you ever heard WAP by Cardi B, FlexibleFriend?

If you go on Youtube it's there and you can get a clip with the lyrics on

It's not good .It really isn't,

I'm no prude. I was a wild child to say the least, in my youth

Whilst I am not shocked with the song, I don't really care. But I agree with others who have mentioned children liking these songs.

Hopefully not singing along

Lucretzia Sun 13-Dec-20 17:54:32

As an aside, as far as rapping goes, I quite like some if it.

Loved Eminem since way back. Missy Elliott and I love Mary J Blige

I guess I'm an old school rap fan

Alioop Sun 13-Dec-20 20:27:23

You only have to listen to the language some kids use walking down the street with each other and they think nothing of it. Probably the lyrics in the songs don't shock them like us. I remember calling my sister a pig and my mother hit me a severe slap for it. Times have changed, music has changed and all for the worst. I'm only 54, danced my way through the 80s, but now feel a prude. I thoroughly enjoyed myself, but we didn't need the anger and explicit language they need in songs now.

Aepgirl Sun 13-Dec-20 21:06:07

I just don’t understand some modern music, and thankfully can’t understand most of the words - whatever happened to diction?