Fined for rule breaking during "lock down"

How silly.

I would like to see every single person who was fined totally reimbursed.

Two wrongs don’t make a right.

Why should anyone who broke the rules have an apology or their conviction overturned? Their actions were wrong, nothing else is relevant.

I don’t think it’s a matter of fines being reimbursed, no matter what the report says. If you broke the rules, you broke the rules. They were there for the protection of the public and if the report identifies that rules were broken at No 10, then the details should become a matter for the police to deal with and levy the appropriate fines. Two wrongs don’t make a right.

No, I don't know anyone who was fined, but I know plenty who should have been. Starting with our PM and scumbag Cummings.

And why on earth should those who were get a refund? Break the rules, bear the consequences.

Agree with Gagajo

I knew someone who was fined, police at the door and all. The woman was having flowers delivered to her home as she wasn't going to her shop/ business. Working from home in other words. She was doing orders mainly for funerals and someone reported her. Her fine was for £10,000 but whether it was paid I don't know, or whether she'd disputed it.

Her business is within a locked unit so she couldn't have gone there in any case. She wasn't breaking any rules.

An apology for what exactly.

As others have said, I certainly hope that those who were fined for breaking the rule will not be exonarated- whatever happens to the Gray report. Just fine all those found it for breaking the rules, and present at said parties.

I know someone who travelled abroad twice during lockdown for a holiday. Lied and said it was for work, but it wasn't. Nothing was done about it.

This is an interesting twitter thread listing reasons people gave for breaking the rules which resulted in a fine. Some of the reasons are heartbreaking, some of the people seem unwell and for some I guess the fine was an expense they could ill afford. twitter.com/kirkkorner/status/1483705791379034112
Kirk Korner is the Courts Correspondent for the London Evening Standard.

It makes me angry that people like this were fined whilst Johnson and his party-going group knew they themselves were repeatedly breaking the rules and stood happily by and let the little people be fined. If Johnson et al had not been caught out they would quietly have let this unfairness slip by unnoticed and uncorrected. One rule and system for them, one rule and system for another. That's the measure of the people who made and broke their own rules.

Also

“The Met has handed out 17,000 fines to Londoners for breaking lockdown rules, that disproportionately penalised Black and Asian people, who were almost twice as likely to be handed fines or arrested for breaches of the lockdown rules than white people.”
Professor Leslie Thomas QC.

Can this be fair.

To answer the OP question. No I wasn't reprimanded and no I wasn't fined. I tried not to break the rules but I have empathy for those who did in the circumstances, especially those who were so lonely, mentally ill or desperate they felt they had no choice.

Never let it be said that the legal system in the UK is fair or representative. Not surprised at all, Coastpath. I guess Stop and Search (massive focus on ethnic minorities) had to go somewhere when everyone went into lockdown.

A widowed friend of mine constantly broke the rules by visiting her children and grandchildren. She said lots of her friends did the same. I kept to the rules.

EV, nobody was fined £10k unless they broke the rules in a big way and/or repeatedly. There was far more to that than wfh.

Everyone who broke the rules should face the music and I do mean everyone.

I was stopped by the police and quite a few of my daughter's support staff were on the way to work. I'd been mindful to take paperwork to say I could be out so it was easily resolved.

No, but various neighbours should have been.

An older couple in my area were sitting on seats outside their car at the seafront having a coffee. People complained on facebook and the police came. They used common sense and left them alone.

Remember two dog-walkers who drank coffee and were accused of having a picnic?
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-55625062
Student fined £10k for organising snowball fight
inews.co.uk/news/downing-street-party-student-fined-snowball-fight-no-10-punishment-1402464

Sarnia

Everyone who broke the rules should face the music and I do mean everyone.

I agree

Thank goodness for that nadateturbe. When you consider how some of these rules were set up and enforced it makes you wonder if they actually did any good. I mean, what harm could sitting alone on a park bench ever have done anyone?

I am sure we will look back on roped off park benches and police moving people on from picnic blankets as utterly ludicrous.

I don't think the restrictions were anywhere near strong enough. We should have had the army on the streets.

The army on the streets? To stop people sitting on benches?

Crikey.