Jeremy Corbyn

To be honest a thread on Johnsons failings was turned into attacks on Starmer the other day, not by conservatives.

Ok that wasn’t really my original point but whatever,

Lucca

Anniebach

No difference from threads on Starmer

Not seen many threads exclusively on Starmer. He usually just gets a mention as being dull. Never mind whether he’s a decent man

There have been quite a few threads about Starmer Lucca, I just typed his name in the search bar to check. Often started by posters I know are on the left of Labour.

Anniebach

No difference from threads on Starmer

Not seen many threads exclusively on Starmer. He usually just gets a mention as being dull. Never mind whether he’s a decent man

No difference from threads on Starmer

Ilovecheese

So this thread has now become an excuse to repeat over and over again nasty remarks about Jeremy Corbyn that have been posted so many, many times before.

A bit like certain other threads ?

So this thread has now become an excuse to repeat over and over again nasty remarks about Jeremy Corbyn that have been posted so many, many times before.

Corbyn does not criticise Russia. He wanted the Russians to investigate the Salisbury poisoning. He was a leader from which the Labour Party is slowly recovering (a self-inflicted wound of course). I hope he loses his seat next time.

Mo Mowlam - said in the House of Commons she unreservedly
condemned Mr Corbyn’s plan to host an event to launch
Gerry Adams autobiography in the Commons, the IRA had
recently ended a two year ceasefire with a huge, fatal bombing
.in London’s Docklands.

Corbyn was filmed at a wreath laying ceremony for the terrorists who had murdered the Israeli Olympic team,
‘I was there but I don’t know if I was involved

Tony Benn that man of the people, who, when he was environmental minister wanted to open up the sea walls for everyone to walk.
But didn’t apply if you wanted to walk past his house ( Stansgate Abbey Farm) which abutted the sea wall at Steeple on the Blackwater estuary.
He had it blocked off so you had to take a detour.

Corbyn was no more demonised by the media than any other Labour leader. He worked hard to alienate many people who had always voted Labour.
I have no respect for him.

Glorianny we will have to agree to differ.

Am I the only person who was desperately disappointed that Tony Benn had ordered his finances so as to avoid paying the death duties applicable to his estate? I'm not suggesting he did anything illegal, yes it was all within the law, but IMO he exploited every method to avoid paying the full due that many others did pay, and I was very disillusioned when it became apparent. It didn't quite chime with earlier attitudes.

Yes I would join

M0nica

Glorianny I couldn't care less who is alive or dead. It is to do with who is an honourable man who earns our respect, and who usn't. It doesn'y matter whether they share political views or not. I disagreed with Tony Benn's politics every bit as as much as I deplore Corbyn's.

The difference is the qualities of the men themselves. When Tony Benn was alive, I deplored his views and thought he was politically away with the fairies but I respected him as an honest and truthful man who earned my respect.

Corbyn, I do not respect him alive and I certainly will not respect him when he is dead.

Perhaps because Corbyn actually led the LP and so was absolutely demonised and destroyed by the media, whereas Benn was never in a position of power. It's well known that the British love an underdog. No comments about the fact that Corbyn and Benn stood together on many platforms and ideas? In fact Corbyn was very much a protege of Benn, and Benn's diaries treat him with great respect and even see him as a prospective leader of the party. prruk.org/jeremy-corbyn-and-tony-benn-why-character-assassination-goes-with-returning-labour-to-its-socialist-roots

Glorianny I couldn't care less who is alive or dead. It is to do with who is an honourable man who earns our respect, and who usn't. It doesn'y matter whether they share political views or not. I disagreed with Tony Benn's politics every bit as as much as I deplore Corbyn's.

The difference is the qualities of the men themselves. When Tony Benn was alive, I deplored his views and thought he was politically away with the fairies but I respected him as an honest and truthful man who earned my respect.

Corbyn, I do not respect him alive and I certainly will not respect him when he is dead.

Tony Benn was in constant battle with the LP most of his life. He went against everything his party stood for regularly and passionately. In fact he and Corbyn stood side by side on many matters. Of course TB is dead and Corbyn isn't. Perhaps that's the difference.

No, Tony Benn became the nation's favourite ex-politician, perhaps because he had charm, energy, passion and that over-rated word charisma.

Corbyn is like a damp squib in comparison.

A bit of a case of 'The only good Labour leader is a dead leader' is it not?

Anniebach

When Corbyn was party leader the Communist Party announced they would not put forward a candidate in the two general elections.

Post hoc ergo propter hoc, as m'learned friends say (ironically)

M0nica

Yes, I had respect for Tony Benn, no matter how much I disagreed with him. He was a man of honour and principle.

I certainly would not say that about Corbyn, a man who clearly decided early that the only way he could achieve any public recognition was by going against everything else everyone else, especially his party, stood for and if that meant consorting with terrorists and organisations that were unsvoury in the extreme, so be it. Except that whenever he was called out for his associations, instead of standing up and defending his views and justifying his support for these organisations, he became all meally mouthed and wriggly and tried to distance himself from his previous allies.

I have always felt that if this country was ever attacked and occupied by another country Tony Benn would have stood up for his principles, even unto death. Jeremy Corbyn would have collaborated.

Tony Benn was in constant battle with the LP most of his life. He went against everything his party stood for regularly and passionately. In fact he and Corbyn stood side by side on many matters. Of course TB is dead and Corbyn isn't. Perhaps that's the difference.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0PQMvH3DYU

Not my perspective either Gagajo but other people enjoy their own opinions.
And get away with saying very personally unpleasant things.

Well, that is an alternative opinion of someone admired by many. It certainly isn't my perspective. But everyone differs.

Yes, I had respect for Tony Benn, no matter how much I disagreed with him. He was a man of honour and principle.

I certainly would not say that about Corbyn, a man who clearly decided early that the only way he could achieve any public recognition was by going against everything else everyone else, especially his party, stood for and if that meant consorting with terrorists and organisations that were unsvoury in the extreme, so be it. Except that whenever he was called out for his associations, instead of standing up and defending his views and justifying his support for these organisations, he became all meally mouthed and wriggly and tried to distance himself from his previous allies.

I have always felt that if this country was ever attacked and occupied by another country Tony Benn would have stood up for his principles, even unto death. Jeremy Corbyn would have collaborated.

Expect he would have wanted peace talks with Hitler

“What I find disappointing is that hardly any of the world’s leaders use the word peace; they always use the language of more war, and more bellicose war.”

He's such a well-meaning sweetie, isn't he!

As if a chat to Putin and appealing to his better nature is going to work.
Perhaps he'd like to have a chat with the Chinese too, who are now circling Taiwan.