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Neen Fri 24-Sep-21 21:05:19

Creamy clouds slowly moving by,
Welcoming breeze in my face,
Laying, making pictures in the sky,
Closing my eyes,
Choosing only positive sounds to go in,
It's not a rat race to win,
Helping somebody along the way,
Healthy boundaries are paramount for each day,
Listen and your learn more,
Smile and open that culture door,
Wildlife sounds for all to enjoy,
Less fumes people, and ride that bike,
Learning new ways,
Meet new friends for a local hike,
Live a life of gratitude,
The past is not here,
Your new life is now,
Dream big, have no fear,
Travel around until you find home,
God is right next you,
You are never alone.

ElderlyPerson Fri 24-Sep-21 21:52:02

We are older
We are wiser
Some people say
As we dream through a forest
Our music we play
Simple percussion
Rings out our dreams
As we walk through a forest
Yes that's how it seems
We are older
We are wiser
Our music we play
As we dream through a forest
Every day

(instrumental section)

The scent of the flowers
We each dream in our mind
As we walk through a forest
Wild flowers we find
Leave them to flourish
To flower in the sun
To bring joy and contentment
To every one
We are older
We are wiser
Some people say
As we dream through a forest
Our music we play
As we dream through a forest
Our music we play

Neen Sat 25-Sep-21 07:52:41

I love that 😊

ElderlyPerson Mon 27-Sep-21 21:14:05

The rubble-like landscape of root ginger
Brown beneath the lights
Amongst them a striving for life
A green shoot amongst the brown
On a small round piece
Gently lifted
Placed in a produce bag
The lady is asked to avoid damaging the shoot
She takes care as she weighs it and its immediate wrapping
Four English pennies and the organic jewel becomes mine
The striving for life
Perhaps seeming futile in that landscape
Now beginning a journey to a eutopia
Where its dreams can flourish

MayBeMaw Mon 27-Sep-21 22:02:09

As literary criticism seems to be acceptable you might like to check/amend your spelling of Utopia

MayBeMaw Mon 27-Sep-21 22:07:58

Oh dear, sorry - was it a political comment, a neologism based on the EU - “eutopia “?
If so, I apologise

ElderlyPerson Mon 27-Sep-21 22:08:02

I have used the word 'eutopia' correctly.

I did not use the word 'utopia'.

ElderlyPerson Mon 27-Sep-21 22:13:12

Ah, my first reply was before I saw your second post.

It is nothing to do with the European Union.

www.lexico.com/definition/eutopia?locale=en

www.dictionary.com/browse/eutopia claims it as obsolete

ElderlyPerson Mon 27-Sep-21 22:16:07

The idea that I was trying to convey was that now I had purchased it, it was now going to be taken to my home and be planted in ideal growing conditions and nurtured as a house plant.

MayBeMaw Mon 27-Sep-21 22:58:47

“eutopia”
noun Obsolete.
a place in which human society, natural conditions, etc., are so ideally perfect that there is complete contentment
Utopia
But as you found out too, it is obsolete - so what was the significance of choosing an obsolete word over the more meaningful “Utopia” as in Sir Thomas More’s work of the same name, describing “an imaginary island enjoying perfection in law and politics”

ElderlyPerson Tue 28-Sep-21 03:05:03

I only found that claim of the word being obsolete after I had written and posted the poem.

The Oxford English Dictionary, as on the lexico site, does not suggest that.

Although it went against my opinion on the matter, nevertheless I included the link that claims the word to be obsolete rather than be selective in a way that would support my views, so that readers may reach their own conclusions.

I have now found the following..

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utopia#Etymology

The reason that I chose the word 'eutopia' is that it is the best word to describe what happened, the piece of ginger got ideal growing conditions in which to achieve its potential.

Do you like the poem?

BoadiceaJones Tue 28-Sep-21 03:55:11

Love Poem

We met, not in first youth,
On Sparken Hill. Bronze leaves
Dark stained the summer green.

We have grown old.
Not yet the old of pincered limbs and
More tortured doubts of life unlived,
But in this curious waiting room of age.

In lonely dark I open up
My mindbook filled with joys
Of tumbling autumn love
When together we bestrode the world
And feasted deep at the table of the gods.

ElderlyPerson Tue 28-Sep-21 07:58:17

Would you like
a cup of tea,
a piece of cake
and a talk with me?
And when we've talked
it should be clear
how you will now
address me, dear.
You won't call me Mum
you've let it be known
for you've got a Mum
of your own.
By my first name
As friends and husband do
I gladly give
that choice to you.
Though as you're married
to my son
I respect your view
it isn't done.
So to me my dear
the solution is plain
you may address me
as Auntie Jane

MayBeMaw Tue 28-Sep-21 09:00:38

We may have to relabel this “Bert Fry Corner”

ElderlyPerson Tue 28-Sep-21 09:13:07

Reading your post
I wondered why,
you named a man
known as Bert Fry
I've found he's a character
who spends some time
like a Thomas Tusser
of didactic rhyme

Neen Tue 28-Sep-21 15:47:06

Thank you. I love these

Eloethan Tue 28-Sep-21 17:32:05

Are all these composed by Gransnetters? I think they're good.

It doesn't really matter that the word Eutopia has been replaced by Utopia. I feel sure everyone understood what was meant.

ElderlyPerson Tue 28-Sep-21 17:50:49

The word 'eutopia' has not been replaced.

I used it quite deliberately, knowing of its meaning distinct from the word 'utopia'.

Yes, it is quite rare, perhaps a little less rare now that I have used it in this poem.

I am wondering if, knowing of the poem, some readers might gaze at the root ginger in a supermarket display differently than they would have before and perhaps look for a small piece with a green shoot.

Elegran Thu 30-Sep-21 20:55:24

Not my poem, but I have just seen this on Facebook.

nadateturbe Thu 30-Sep-21 21:11:31

ElderlyPerson

The word 'eutopia' has not been replaced.

I used it quite deliberately, knowing of its meaning distinct from the word 'utopia'.

Yes, it is quite rare, perhaps a little less rare now that I have used it in this poem.

I am wondering if, knowing of the poem, some readers might gaze at the root ginger in a supermarket display differently than they would have before and perhaps look for a small piece with a green shoot.

I will. Enjoyed all your poetry.

MayBeMaw Thu 30-Sep-21 21:19:47

ElderlyPerson

The word 'eutopia' has not been replaced.

I used it quite deliberately, knowing of its meaning distinct from the word 'utopia'.

Yes, it is quite rare, perhaps a little less rare now that I have used it in this poem.

I am wondering if, knowing of the poem, some readers might gaze at the root ginger in a supermarket display differently than they would have before and perhaps look for a small piece with a green shoot.

How can you say the two words have distinct meanings
utopia
noun
an imagined place or state of things in which everything is perfect
Or from Merriam Webster
Definition of Eutopia
: a country of ideal felicity and perfection
sometimes : UTOPIA
confusedconfused
As different as six of one and half a dozen of the other?

ElderlyPerson Fri 01-Oct-21 00:50:40

Elegran

Not my poem, but I have just seen this on Facebook.

Thank you for posting that. It is really good.

ElderlyPerson Fri 01-Oct-21 00:55:29

> As different as six of one and half a dozen of the other?

As different as six white roses and half a dozen of pink roses.

ElderlyPerson Fri 01-Oct-21 01:29:18

eutopia and utopia
Are they just the same
save that one has perfection
an extra letter in its name
ideal place and no place
can they both exist
or is that fine distinction
one that should desist?

welbeck Fri 01-Oct-21 04:21:54

Neen, i really liked your opening poem.
it comes from the heart. thank you.