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badly controlled huskies.

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Fennel Wed 15-Aug-18 19:36:37

There seems to be a fashion here (Tyneside) for young people to take on a husky, or 2. They're beautiful dogs.
Normally I'm not afraid of dogs, but there's a young man near us who has 2. He takes them out on leads but they're straining all the time and twice lunged at me, barking fiercely. They nearly pull him over.
Is there anything I can do about it? Apart from avoiding him.
Have the Police any powers?

HildaW Wed 15-Aug-18 19:45:20

As a breed they are a working dog that can walk/run all day in sub zero temperatures. Hence they need loads and loads of exercise. Therefore not really suitable for owners who do not fully understand the breed. I doubt there is anything police can do until it actually attacks. The sad thing then is that the dog will be blamed when in fact its the owners lack of training that is at fault.

FlexibleFriend Wed 15-Aug-18 20:48:44

You'd be better off trying to find your local dog warden and ask them to have a word.

Iam64 Wed 15-Aug-18 20:58:04

Fennel, my Vet said the Dogs he was most cautious with would be the wolf type breeds. Husky types have become over popular, probably as a result of Game of Thrones. They are big powerful, working dogs. They’re bred to run an run, whilst towing sledges, they aren’t meant to live in small houses, without the job or the exercise they need. They need owners who understand the breed.
The dog rescue shelters are over flowing with them.
Sorry fennel, that isn’t very helpful. The dog warden is worth a call, other people may have complained. Best to keep well away

BBbevan Thu 16-Aug-18 06:33:06

There was a young man with a husky living near me before we moved. When he first had the dog it was taken out regularly . This dwindled rapidly. By the time the dog was full grown and strong it was his mum who took it out very occasionally. It dragged her down the road to much cursing and swearing. The rest of the time it howled eerily in their back garden. Sad for such a beautiful animal.

MissAdventure Thu 16-Aug-18 06:40:29

That makes me so angry!!

OldMeg Thu 16-Aug-18 07:09:54

I think it’s all been said already by other posters.

There is a new law coming out late this year about dog breeding. Perhaps this will help in future, but too late for dogs who are currently bred and sold to owners who haven’t a clue.

Iam64 Thu 16-Aug-18 07:54:50

Dog breeding! What’s the new law OldMeg? Ive read about attempts to prevent puppy farms in the UK. I’m puzzled as to how it’s so easy to smuggle in litters from Eastern Europe. These badly bred, poor diet, total lack of socialisation five and six week olds are sold on via the Internet. They’re often “the last in the litter”, “sorry you can’t see the pups mother because she’s visiting a relative who had a stroke.....”. We need the general public to be much more well informed before they buy whatever dog tops this years popularity poll. Sorry folks - it makes me so cross. We are away at the sea side. The number of Dogs pulling their owners along is astounding. Usually the dogs aren’t on a collar and lead, they’re wearing an expensive harness “we don’t want him to hurt his neck pulling”. Train your dog then, teach it how to walk nicely on a loose lead at your side. It takes time and consistency but it isn’t beyond the wit of anyone who wants a well behaved pet

gillybob Thu 16-Aug-18 08:00:48

I was listening to a piece on Radio Newcastle recently Fennel and apparently Huskies and Greyhounds are very fashionable dogs to have at the moment and often people haven’t got a clue how to look after them properly . They mentioned the strong resemblance of a Husky and a Wolf . My sister crosses the road with her little dog to avoid any that she sees as they are quite aggressive. Not sure what can be done though?

OldMeg Thu 16-Aug-18 08:38:23

I’ll see if I can find the piece I read on FB today and post it Iam

OldMeg Thu 16-Aug-18 08:40:15

“Anyone breeding puppies after 1st October 2018 should be aware that if you make a profit of over £1000 the council can count you as a business & you will need a breeding licence. You will also have to register with HMRC. Any money made from selling of a litter also counts as undeclared income with the benefits agencies .
This also applies to anyone breeding three or more litters per year, or breeding dogs for financial gain .
You will need a licence number to advertise the selling of your litter on websites in future”

This is at least a step in the right direction.

OldMeg Thu 16-Aug-18 08:46:38

Iam my dogs walks nicely on a loose lead attached to their (expensive) harness. The young one has passed his Bronze KC Award but the older one is still unpredictable and can bolt at sudden loud noises. They are rescue dogs and I’ve only had the older one a couple of months.

I always use harnesses with any dogs I foster. While I take your point about dogs being under control that is less to do with the collar/harness debate and more to do with training the owners! ?

Jane10 Thu 16-Aug-18 08:52:58

I know it's not the same thing but when we bought our cat (Baz the Maine Coon) we had to have several visits to him as a kitten, saw his mum (and her friend who was helping with the kittens!) and all his litter mates. He was very obviously reared in a home environment not a pen. We were rigorously questioned regarding how we organised life for a kitten etc. It was very thorough. To hear of buying poor little overbred puppies over the internet from Eastern Europe is awful.
Huskies are beautiful dogs. Especially at a distance!

Fennel Thu 16-Aug-18 11:22:52

As you say,Jane they're beautiful at a distance.
There's also a family on this estate who seem to be breeding dogs in a cage. During the hot weather they had them outside(in the cage). No longer puppies. It seems so cruel.
I wonder if they'll enforce the new law? We had a policeman speaking at our retires group yesterday and he never mentioned it, though I did ask him whether the Police had any powers, he said only for banned breads.
I believe huskies are on the dangerous dogs list in the USA.

Jane10 Thu 16-Aug-18 12:06:59

There's all sorts of husky type dogs of course. Not sure where Malamuts and Akitas fit in.

FourthEchidna Thu 16-Aug-18 12:51:30

Hi, living in the US here. We only ban pit bulls, mastiffs and bull terriers. We don't really have a problem with huskies and I'm so sad to hear you have one there. They're not as popular here in most places since they're cold weather dogs. In cold states where people have them, they usually have huge American yards to keep them active so they have a good reputation and you seldom see them given up to shelters.

Jane10 Thu 16-Aug-18 14:43:22

Intrigued by your name FourthEchidna! I thought they were Australian animals.

Iam64 Thu 16-Aug-18 22:20:19

Jane10, malamuts are increasingly used by the police. They’re big, powerful and intelligent. Akitas are, from what I’ve seen and read, often used as fighting Dogs. These big powerful breeds are not ideal pets.
OldMeg, i accept your point about owners rather than harnesses being relevant. I’ve seen so many today though, hurtling down the narrow pavements here, owners could do with skates or sledges to keep up.
I use those figure of eight gen .... (avoiding advertising) within big foster Dogs who don’t know how to lead walk. I also use one on my own big dog when on lead around deer or sheep. Her recall and obedience are grand but her high prey urge hasn’t entirely left her, despite the kennel club gold certificate over her bed ??
Thanks for the info on proposed restrictions on breeding. The £1000 figure is low enough to snare “hobby breeders”. Will there be enough resources to enforce it though.

FourthEchidna Thu 16-Aug-18 23:47:54

I did some work with animals briefly in Australia a long time ago. There are four different species of echidnas, sorry off topic!

absent Fri 17-Aug-18 06:23:33

Huskies are not pets. They are lovely, loyal, hard-working dogs but have no place in towns and cities.

OldMeg Fri 17-Aug-18 06:28:52

The same goes for most ‘working breeds’ generally, unless owners are prepared to take them for long runs in rural surroundings.

But dogs like huskies in particular are certainly not suited to urban life styles.

absent Fri 17-Aug-18 06:32:59

OldMeg Border collies, for example, but with enough time to run around – and, possibly round up every other dog in the park – they will be okay. Huskies are not the same; they are strength and endurance dogs and it is almost impossible to give them the life they need.

OldMeg Fri 17-Aug-18 06:59:54

I hope I conveyed my complete agreement with you Absent in my last sentence.

I was just making a general point about the needs of certain other dog breeds stimulated by your accurate observations about huskies.

sodapop Fri 17-Aug-18 08:52:11

It's such a shame that breeds like this are condemned to a lifestyle totally unsuitable for their needs. I don't know what the answer is, breeders ensuring suitable placements ?
Then of course internet sales preclude this.
Why do people not consider the animal and just go for the latest trend or a dog which looks attractive as Huskies really do.

sarahcyn Fri 17-Aug-18 10:05:34

Oh this makes me SO ANGRY. The poor dogs are completely unsuited to the lives humans impose on them.
Bloody Game Of Thrones.
As for breeding flat-faced breeds so they can’t breathe “because they look cute”.
- I wonder how people would feel if some more powerful species forced people with congenital deformities to have babies together because they found their deformed bodies amusing?