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Widowed, christmas and comfort zones

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craftyone Mon 17-Jun-19 18:42:02

This year will be the 4th christmas since I was widowed. I am not enjoying the long and tedious christmas break these days. The children do their bit and rotate to take me in but I feel ready now to spread my wings and to go on holiday at christmas. I want to give my AC space to do what they want and I certainly don`t want to be a burden. I have never been a confident traveller, only had one holiday since widowed, a saga cruise, which cost me an arm and a leg

I know I will be out of my comfort zone and am ready to take that leap but don`t know where to start. Any advice is welcome.

midgey Mon 17-Jun-19 18:45:23

What about volunteering? I have heard that it can be great fun and thoroughly rewarding.

Calendargirl Mon 17-Jun-19 18:58:54

What about a coach holiday at Christmas? You wouldn’t have to worry about anything after getting on your feeder coach. Meals, excursions and company all to hand, and not too expensive hopefully.

BlueBelle Mon 17-Jun-19 19:01:52

Do we have to have Christmas threads when we haven’t even had summer yet, this is the second one

Niobe Mon 17-Jun-19 19:34:11

Blue Belle, the title told you what the thread was about. If you don't want to hear about Christmas don't read the thread. Craftyone's dilemma is shared by many widows and she is asking for support and ideas.

Alima Mon 17-Jun-19 19:56:02

Then we will need ten more before Christmas BlueBelle! You must have heard about the 12 Threads of Christmas? Anyway, back to Craftyone’s question. Though I haven’t been on one I have heard good things about Saga Solo holidays. Think they are called that. For solo travellers as opposed to singles. Or coach holidays for solo travellers. How about a special interest holiday, something like walking across the Dolomites without a turkey in sight. Do hope you find something that appeals to you,

MawBroonsback Mon 17-Jun-19 20:18:00

We do try not to use the “C” word before at least September Craftyone
Sufficient unto the day etc etc

MawBroonsback Mon 17-Jun-19 20:19:32

The Twelve Threads of Christmas! tchgrintchgrintchgrin

mumofmadboys Mon 17-Jun-19 20:29:07

If Craftyone is thinking of doing something else for Christmas then well done to her! Of course it will need some planning. If others don't want to think about Christmas that is fine. Just avoid threads with Christmas in the title! I think HF holidays do Christmas breaks and their holidays are always good value for money and well organised. A lot of singles go on those. Wish you well

SueDonim Mon 17-Jun-19 20:38:29

If the OP wants to go away for Christmas she needs to be thinking about it now, before everywhere is booked up, so I think the thread can be justified. And someone has to be the first! grin

I hope you find something you like, Craftyone

52bright Mon 17-Jun-19 20:39:31

I think that if Craftyone is worried about this now its ok for those who wish to and are able to support and advise her. As a previous poster has said need for those who don't wish to consider Christmas yet to engage. I personally have no wish to consider Christmas yet but no need to close down threads for those who are concerned this early.
It is a dilemma for many Craftyone. The only thing I can come up with is the possibility of a like minded friend who is also alone going on a small break with you. Of course I do realize that if this was a possibility you probably wouldn't be posting on here. However I do know that sometimes people keep their anxieties to themselves in RL for fear of becoming a burden and later discover that others would have been willing to join them if only they had know. My best wishes. Hopefully others will be along soon with better ideas or advice.

seacliff Mon 17-Jun-19 20:50:45

A friend of mine enjoys HF holidays. These are over the festive period, and some are for solo travellers. Not sure if this would suit you

Or this company offer holidays abroad for solo older people and they have a forum where you can chat to others before you go. Might be worth a look.

leyla Mon 17-Jun-19 21:01:49

You definitely need to book sooner rather than later so of course you need the advice now! (Don't take any notice of the posters moaning about having a Christmas thread)

I would choose something like a singles holiday or escorted tour but I don't know any companies to advise. I shall read any suggestions on here with interest. I hope that you do decide to take the plunge and that you have a wonderful time.

craftyone Tue 18-Jun-19 06:27:14

Thank you to the supporters and helpers, some people have no clue about helping and supporting others but it is probably understandable if they have not been widowed, yet.

The obvious reason for asking about christmas early is planning and needing to book. I am now thinking of a coach holiday, maybe only in the uk but it will break me in. My saga cruise cost me almost £5000 that november but it was not too long after husband died so I was not bothered about spending money at that time. It was only the canary isles and 3 days of horrible nausea. I was well looked after but overall did not like it

I looked at some holidays online last night, even the solo holidays were much more expensive for singles. The best value is coach at around £500-£700. Cruises are still £5000+ with saga for a single. Gold coach will give me home pick up which is enticing. I am still researching and am grateful for suggestions, which I am looking at

craftyone Tue 18-Jun-19 06:29:31

oh HF looks excellent, love the activities

Anja Tue 18-Jun-19 07:10:42

Yes, I think you should go somewhere you’ve always wanted to go. Enjoy the planning 👍🏽

Riverwalk Tue 18-Jun-19 07:12:50

I'm usually an independent traveller but every year go with my best friend on a trip with Riviera Travel so can vouch for their excellence, and they're such good value.

They do trips for solo travellers with no single supplement and your own room.


MawBroonsback Tue 18-Jun-19 07:17:56

Thank you to the supporters and helpers, some people have no clue about helping and supporting others but it is probably understandable if they have not been widowed yet

Sorry if my little pome offended !

mosaicwarts Tue 18-Jun-19 08:08:57

Hello craftyone, I'll be looking too for next year, thanks for starting the thread. Some of the widows on WU have been on Just You holidays and say they were well organised and value for money. Here's the festive link -

Enjoy choosing! We went to India with Riviera Travel and they do fantastic solo tours, but so expensive. I'm hoping to have sold the house by next Christmas and am going to splash out on NZ.

Missfoodlove Tue 18-Jun-19 09:45:19

I really admire you.
Your AC are fortunate to have such a considerate mother.
Have you thought that your children may actually be disappointed if you were to go away?
I would discuss it with them first.

Teacheranne Tue 18-Jun-19 10:19:26

I am also a single traveller ( although do spend Christmas with my family) and am often shocked by the price. I looked at a cruise to Norway with Saga this year and found that the single cabin was exactly the same price as a twin room for two - but was smaller, with a single bed and located in a noisy area next to the stairs and lifts, with a restricted view! What a rip off!

I also dislike flying and have limited mobility - hence I've not had a holiday for three years!

I've been away previously on singles holidays with Just You, Solos, Saga, Jules Verne and Titan. The trouble with some coach holidays is that most people are quite a bit older than me, the last one I went on to Germany, I was the youngest at 59 and found that everyone went to bed straight after the meal leaving me with no company after 9pm!

I'd love some new suggestions.

craftyone Tue 18-Jun-19 10:56:12

The ideas coming forward are really good, thank you for that. I hate flying ever since I felt very rough coming home from malaysia, blue toes etc.

There was a lot of bronchial coughing coming from cabins on my only cruise and I caught a nasty bronchial cough which lasted for weeks after I came home. Dh caught a very nasty bronchitis when we flew saga to malta, spent the whole holiday in the room, most we did was sit on the balcony. Some were taken to hospital with this bug. Saga keep these thing quiet. Puts me off, they use the same pillows, just clean pillowcases

re christmas yes, we have a gathering about that date but I remember how I longed for a family christmas when in their position with no extra catering. I give them that space now, so they can de-stress from their very stressful professional jobs

MawBroonsback Tue 18-Jun-19 11:00:30

some people have no clue about helping and supporting others but it is probably understandable if they have not been widowed, yet
Sorry if I am being picky, but it is not necessary to have been widowed to understand how others feel, there are other reasons for being on one’s own.
And why the inclusion of yet - very pessimistic, it seems.

Blinko Tue 18-Jun-19 11:00:46

Um....I think you may find that most places use the same pillows hmm.

Mapleleaf Tue 18-Jun-19 11:02:26

The thing is, Bluebelle, the type of holiday craftyone chooses may need booking several months in advance.
Yes, she mentions Christmas, but it’s pertinent to her post and she is asking us for advice. A little compassion and understanding goes along way.
Craftyone, there have been some good suggestions, and I hope you find them useful. Perhaps a coach trip in the UK for starters?
Good luck.

Witzend Tue 18-Jun-19 11:13:15

A not-long widowed friend of mine has treated herself to two long-haul Saga singles holidays and really enjoyed them, though I know she was a bit apprehensive beforehand.

At the less expensive end, years ago I went with my mother on a Shearings coach holiday to the Shetlands, after she'd been let down by a friend on a non coach holiday to other Scottish islands.
TBH we had never thought it'd be our sort of thing, but I can honestly say I was incredibly impressed - the organisation was fantastic, you didn't have to worry about a thing, and there were certainly some singles with us. I read not long ago of a widower who goes on 12 Shearings holidays a year! One a month. Obviously not short of cash!

I do hope you find something you will thoroughly enjoy.

lovebooks Tue 18-Jun-19 11:16:39

I lost my husband five years ago, and have hated every Christmas since, so I know precisely where you're at, Craftyone. Have a loving family living a long way away, so the journey's horrendous and overcrowded. Alternatives need to be looked at now, not in November!! Happy to talk if you want to get in touch.

oodles Tue 18-Jun-19 11:40:13

Do have a word with your children and see what they think, what my daughter has discovered is that there are some days over the christmas period where flying is a lot cheaper, boxing day she went off on her hols very cheaply coming back on another v cheap day, maybe something like that might be worth considering, or maybe finding cheap days in the run up to christmas. I don't know if you are near an airport and whether you'd be happy hiring a car abroad, but you could have a lovely explore somewhere nice and warm

Craftycat Tue 18-Jun-19 11:44:03

Enjoy the summer & don't worry about it until at least September. You never know what might crop up before then- you may get an invitation you would really love.
Volunteering at a local centre where they serve a Christmas dinner for the elderly is a great idea. A friend of ours did that for years & loved it.

Daffonanna Tue 18-Jun-19 11:44:40

DH and I marked a milestone birthday with an HF trip to NZ in January . Best holiday ever , with a happy mix of couples and singles . TBH it took a while to work out who was with who and it didn’t really matter . I thought at the time it was a great way to holiday as a single .
Good time to go there , cheaper than at Christmas and something to look forward to if the 25th itself disappoints for any reason . Whatever you decide Craftyone , enjoy the planning and can I be the first to wish you a happy Christmas !!☀️

ReadyMeals Tue 18-Jun-19 11:46:54

If you're not a confident traveller it might be an idea to go on a short Saga break or similar to see if you like going away to spend time with strangers, rather than risk ruining an entire xmas if you didn't.

Wendy Tue 18-Jun-19 11:47:06

Your name suggests that you are into crafts. Have you looked at adverts for holidays in the craft magazines?

jaylucy Tue 18-Jun-19 11:47:39

There are many holidays around Christmas for people that are in the same position as yourself - they don't have to be out of this country.
Speak to you family and explain how you feel - they are no doubt really happy to have you with them, but maybe you could arrange a get together at New Year instead.
Bluebelle - how spiteful ! It is obviously something that is bothering craftyone for some time - just because you don't want to think about it, doesn't mean to say others don't ! It was quite obvious what the post was about, so why even read it, let alone make a comment ?

chezza1 Tue 18-Jun-19 12:09:17

Only holidays we have had at Christmas have been coach holidays both at home and abroad. There has always been singletons on board. Go and enjoy, in your shoes I wouldn't hesitate.

Tamayra Tue 18-Jun-19 12:10:24

How about treating yourself to a few days of well-being over Christmas
Facials, Massage Healthy food
Must be places around that cater for a spoil yourself Christmas 💖

Opalsusanna1 Tue 18-Jun-19 12:13:50

It's a shame to go through all the pain of being widowed and then to feel like a bit of a lost soul at Christmas. A friend of ours has been on Leger coach holidays all over Europe. She's by herself and has had some wonderful times so I think they may be worth a look Craftyone. She says she's met some lovely people and has booked repeat holidays with them. I think they book up quickly though. Good luck and have a good time!

GreenGran78 Tue 18-Jun-19 12:22:31

I can highly recommend Shearings. They have won numerous awards, and are great value.

quizqueen Tue 18-Jun-19 12:25:44

Try a company called 'Just You', they are very good and not as expensive as Saga. You could always go away for New Year instead of Christmas, or are we not allowed to talk about that either!!! Some of these trips have to be booked well in advance,

Hazeld Tue 18-Jun-19 12:36:09

Go for it craftyone and whatever you choose, I hope you have a great time. BlueBelle, I know it's only June but things like holidays have to be found and sorted out well before you travel and besides craftyone is feeling in need of the help and advice now. That's what we're here for after all?

Esmerelda Tue 18-Jun-19 13:21:49

One Traveller do lots of Christmas breaks for mature singles ... they are brilliant!

grandtanteJE65 Tue 18-Jun-19 13:28:39

Could you just ignore the people who think it is too early to start planning, Craftyone, it isn't.

Have you perhaps a friend or acquaintance who like you would rather do something else at Christmas than be included by family, "so you won't be on your one?"

If not, I think I would think seriously about volunteering somewhere, if I were you.

EthelJ Tue 18-Jun-19 13:29:51

I agree Riveria do some good trips.
The tour guides are usually very good. I have been on a couple and made friends on both.

LondonMzFitz Tue 18-Jun-19 13:52:29

I'm a fan of the Escape at Christmas holidays. Separated in 2012, I spent my first "all alone" Christmas (our son, traumatised by the separation, skipped the country in September 2012 and spent 6 months travelling through Asia). Although that first Christmas alone wasn't awful (I dog minded for travelling friends), it wasn't great ... 2013 I went to my sisters with her family, staying at a nearby hotel to give them (and me) space - lots of playing games (great)!, drinking (um, not so much) and smoking pot - Oh So Not Me!! (shudders).
2014 I thought oh sod it, booked in August for a Leger "Singles" Coach Trip to Tuscany (my first time in Italy, the BH (bastard husband) never wanted to go). Loved the trip but. But! I was perhaps the 2nd youngest (at 55) and being a soft sod looked after the lady sitting next to me on the coach who'd had a stroke and couldn't - well, frankly, couldn't manage anything! Cutting up her food at mealtimes etc. Hmmm. It was a great trip, but not the holiday I was hoping for.
2015 I went with Shearings to Venice - but this wasn't a "singles" experience, only 3 of us single ladies; although I ended up on a table with some absolutely fabulous people the couples liked to spend time during the day by themselves and it was a bit lonely.
2016 - One of my Meetup groups organised a trip to Bulgaria, a snow/ski resort at Borovetz. Tiny group of us, organiser, an American lady working in the UK who'd fallen out with her mother (!), a man who had a terrible cold and did the man-flu self indulgent self pitying thing, me - and my son, who'd taken up my offer of paying for him. Well, I had a lot of fun (spa hotel, kid skied, I spa'd!).
2017 - Just You to Zagreb. Big group but very well organised and some lovely people. Zagreb and Christmas Markets, amazing Cathedral. Wine tasting organised.
Good fun!
2018 - Amalfi Coast with Just You again. Be still my beating heart oh so gorgeous! Staying in a little coastal village called Minori, trips to Sorrento, Amalfi town, Ravello, and only blooming Pompeii!!! Group of 38 of us so lots of people to natter to. Superb, frankly.

There are a few odd-bods on these trips, but as one of my favourite people on the Amalfi trip said, if there isn't an odd-bod it probably means you are the odd-bod.

Looking at my options for this Christmas. I highly recommend it - you can be as sociable as you want, or escape and read a book. I work full time so I make the Christmas trip my holiday of the year.

Hope I haven't gone on and on, but I do hope my thoughts are of help to those considering a trip.

pinkjj27 Tue 18-Jun-19 14:18:43

I am a window and have had 2 Christmases’ alone I was dreading it but I love it. However I work full time and enjoy the break alone. Its really not that bad. However not everyone’s cup of tea I know. So here are two sites I have joined, these sites are for women looking for friends in general but I have seen women looking for Christmas buddies in their profiles. They are not dating sites and only women are allowed to join.

First is called girlfriend social

2nd is bumble-BFF

Follow the links for girl friends only. I havent been lonely since I jointed and I am now in a sub girl of ladies that meet up In the South East.

Tillybelle Tue 18-Jun-19 14:29:27


Well done you! I do admire you and think you are wise to let your children have Christmas to themselves. I have been trying to negotiate this for some time but as I do not want to go away they get upset at my being at home alone - yet I live alone all the year and I'm fine!! Never mind!

Just recently another Gnetter mentioned One Traveller for single over fifties and said it was excellent so I'll give you the link:

Glenfinnan Tue 18-Jun-19 14:31:38

I don't think it's too early to plan Christmas as you want to make sure you have time to book. Be brave take a deep breath and perhaps book a coach trip. We went to Italy a few years ago for Christmas and there were lots of solo travellers. Enjoy yourself!

Tillybelle Tue 18-Jun-19 14:37:20

Yes - You need to book now if you are planning a Christmas Away Trip. They book up very quickly especially if you are a single traveller.

Also this OP has written something very thoughtful - that the children have been inviting her in turn but she wants to let them have Christmas together. I think this is very thoughtful and she does need to start booking now.

I booked a British Christian Christmas a few years ago. It was great! A very happy time! Sorry I have lost the website but google will produce many.

Tillybelle Tue 18-Jun-19 14:46:21

craftyone. Just remembered - I took my mum to Scotland with a Coach trip for Christmas. Somewhere next to Loch Lomond. That's a long time ago but surely they still have them? Everything was there - all the food, The Queen (not in person but my mum thought she made up for that) carols quizzes dressing up Midnight Mass Father Christmas etc.
To get a good seat on a coach - book early. So MawBroonsback people need to discuss this now.

Thoroughly recommend it!!

pinkjj27 Tue 18-Jun-19 14:57:14

LondonMzFitz I not sure if it was meant to but your post did make me laugh . Thank you

LondonMzFitz Tue 18-Jun-19 15:21:19

tchconfused & grin

Millie22 Tue 18-Jun-19 16:41:24

It does seem early to think about Christmas but not when you need to book a holiday or trip. Sometimes we need to step back and think of our own happiness as there are always family demands especially during the festive season. I hope you find something you will enjoy.

MawBroonsback Tue 18-Jun-19 17:50:05

To get a good seat on a coach - book early. So MawBroonsback people need to discuss this now

Why am I being singled out for this wrist slapping?
(Not that I am paranoid or anything.....)

craftyone Tue 18-Jun-19 18:07:21

ooh thank you for your support, you have given me some amazing tips and links and positivity. I am going to write things down this evening and find myself a coach trip

Peonyrose Tue 18-Jun-19 18:28:15

Craft tone, I did the same as you with Saga, had most dreadful stomach bug, what a miserable waste of thousands of pounds. Never again. I was widowed youngish,,my friends still have their husbands. I have had to write off Christmas, dont worry about it any more. Hated being with couples and some of the single travellers were either much older than me if thirty somethings, made me feel wires. Now I take myself on a cruise before Christmas then a week away in January. Feel little bit guilty as should do end the cash on the house. The cruise I do has single meetings and get togethers, however there is so much to do, I rarely go to the meetings. I just watch what I want on the telly and eat what I like.

Overthehills Tue 18-Jun-19 18:56:05

My friend felt like you Crafty so she chose a holiday where everything was organised for her. She was picked up from and dropped off at her home and everything was organised during the holiday but obviously with free time as well. It gave her confidence to go on less organised breaks and she enjoyed every minute. Her advice - just do it!

sharon103 Tue 18-Jun-19 20:54:28

lol Maw

MawBroonsback Tue 18-Jun-19 21:26:00

You’ve got a lovely new house, craftyone presumably with a lovely new kitchen.
Why don’t you host Christmas for the AC and DGCs?
It’s one solution.
Last year , my second without DH, I had DD1, her husband and 3 children on Christmas Day and were joined by the other 2 DDs plus husbands and one DGS, 2 sisters in law, one adult nephew, DD2’s parents in law and a dog on Boxing Day .
(I feel I should be adding”and a partridge in a pear tree”)
Most left on Boxing Day evening as they had long drives ahead ((Birmingham and Kent) but DD2 and family plus in laws stayed another day and we enjoyed a healthy walk before tucking into the leftovers.

Freespirit2015 Tue 18-Jun-19 21:37:44

I've gone abroad every Christmas since I separated in 2015 and have also enjoyed holidays which amalgamate the Christmas and New Year period. I have provided a link to Just You Festive holidays for 2019/20 one of which I booked a few months ago and am looking forward to enormously. Just bite the bullet and go for it. You won't regret it and you can tell the family all about it afterwards.

BlueSapphire Tue 18-Jun-19 23:16:35

Just to redress the balance re Saga cruises, I have been on three and cannot speak too highly of them. Well looked after, friendly crew who remember you from year to year, lovely cabins, and amazing food. Small ships with not thousands of passengers, feeling at home as soon as you board. The emphasis on health is high with particular regard to tummy bugs. Yes they are expensive, but well worth the money. In fact I am joining a Saga cruise tomorrow; this will be the first ocean cruise on my own since losing DH last year, so I am expecting things to be different. Sorry that you were not happy with them craftyone, but others have suggested many different options, and I hope you find something that suits you. By the way, my sister goes away with Lochs and Glens coach company every Christmas and absolutely loves it.

My Christmas this year will be spent with DS and family; we take it in turns to host, one year me, the next DD, and then DS; it seems to work for us, but it is perfectly ok if one wants something different. We all just go with the flow.

EMMF1948 Wed 19-Jun-19 14:17:19

We once did a coach trip to Germany over Christmas, about 5 days, it was wonderful, I think it was with Travelsphere.

Daisyboots Wed 19-Jun-19 14:44:43

When people mention Saga cruises I always have a little smile. When we moved abroad my lovely Mum moved with us. Whenever we went back to England we seemed to fly on a Friday from Porto. This flight was also used by Saga cruise and coach holidaymakers . As Mum was disabled we were priority boarding and then the Saga holidaymakers would arrive on board really jostling everyone to get to their seats. "Here come the Saga louts" Mum would say. Totally different when they got to Gatwick though. Many stayed seated as they had booked assistance there rather than walk all the way to the exit. Now it's me needing assistance but I do need it both ends.
As my son says I need something to look forward to for when I finish my treatment thank you for the information about great holidays to New Zealand. That has always been in my bucket list and would give DH and I something to plan for.

EmilyHarburn Thu 20-Jun-19 11:03:47

Or you could go to a Blackpool or St annes hotel for Christmas and New year or just Christmas

mosaicwarts Thu 20-Jun-19 12:50:22

I like that, Saga louts!

silverlining48 Thu 20-Jun-19 16:40:49

Rhymes with lager louts...

Jani31 Thu 20-Jun-19 20:47:09

I use Just You with 12 trips under my belt since 2010. Not done any Christmas or New Year trips, have read loads of great reports though. Everyone raves about the trips as they are with like minded people x

jeanie99 Fri 21-Jun-19 07:13:20

If you aren't a confident traveler I would go for something organized perhaps with a solo group this might he better than with couples.
Don't be put off by someone complaining about a Christmas holiday question there are lots of people on here who will support your question whatever time of year you are asking about.
Best of luck

jeanie99 Fri 21-Jun-19 07:15:38

Do make sure you ask about the target age group with any company you are thinking of traveling with, you'll not want to be with the 18 - 30 year olds I suspect.

craftyone Sun 23-Jun-19 20:37:13

blue saphire, the cruise ship and company were fine, so was the food and care. I got cabin fever as well as nausea from the awful bouncing in the waves, so bad that most were confined to cabin, however I am not going to spend over £5000 again on a 10 day holiday in a floating hotel with a weeny little gym that only me and the captain used

I have been doing some homework and speaking to locals I came across in the market town centre. I saw a coach stop today and take holiday makers on board. I have researched pick up points and am joyous to find that the coach company pick up just 10 minutes walk from where I live. I can see me booking last minute this summer, uk for 4-5 days to start with. There is also a theatre coach does pick ups 5 minutes walk away. Watch this space, need to get the house in order first

mosaicwarts Sun 23-Jun-19 22:07:10

That's fantastic Craftyone! Where will you go first? I looked at the Just You holidays I recommended to you, meaning to go to Bournemouth - bit off putting where it says 'make your way to Bournemouth'. Mmm, it's about 340 miles as the crow flies. Saw it on tv today, Coast and Country, don't like the look of it at all, there were more than two people on the beach! I'm so used to the solitude here and I love/hate it at the same time.

I remember going to Jersey on a boat with Steve and my stone faced MIL - we were in a Force 12. I was pregnant (didn't know till we got back) and didn't feel at all seasick, but everyone else was absolutely green. My MIL took to her bed, and nearly set the sheets on fire with the static from her cheap nylon nightie, she was sliding up and down the bunk like a see saw!

Not sure what to do with myself tonight, having panic attacks when I go to bed. Have to get a grip! smile

craftyone Mon 24-Jun-19 06:09:44

what you said mosaics, about having to get to Bournemoth first, travelling long distances in the car is something I will not do. The massive increase in traffic and aggressive driving has put me right off. I will drive in my corner of the uk but that is as far as it goes. I will always be arranging home pickup unless it is a trip that leaves from close by. I must find out taxi cost to 17 miles away, from where day trips leave, that would be x2 in order to get home, U3A is also a possibility re day trips, must get that form filled in and join

Little steps for me before I commit for christmas. One year I did the family gathering a few days before, so the families could enjoy christmas free from catering stress. I had ordered a spinning wheel kit and spent the whole two weeks with a project, ending up with a beautiful spinning wheel that spins like a dream

mosaicwarts Tue 25-Jun-19 00:13:45

I think when I choose where to live I'll see if there are trips easily accessible, I can't drive far at all. I used to be able to years ago, I remember a mammoth drive to a dreadful caravan site with the kids in Carlisle, nearly finished me off seeing angry red lorry driver faces in my mirror! I still need to explore Scotland, Steve was married before and had his honeymoon there so we never went. I have to pay £120 return for a taxi to Newcastle airport which is 35 miles away - with kennel fees and the cat sitter on top, it all adds up.

I'm so bored with Christmas I can't think about it yet. I really can't complain only catering for my son and daughter but everything seems to be such an effort nowadays.

The local coffee centre owner used to have a spinning wheel - and several ladies at the local 'Woolfest' bring theirs with them. No little magical men in sight!

crazyH Tue 25-Jun-19 00:33:13 certainly made me I can't sleep 😂

crazyH Tue 25-Jun-19 00:35:53

Mosaic, you too - your Mil 's cheap nylon nightie made me laugh 😂