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Serious subject experts (women) dressing for clubbing

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Cambsnan Fri 02-Feb-24 09:07:49

Am I wrong to be annoyed by female experts on television dressing like they are going clubbing! Example Lorraine today. Doctor talking about fertility wearing an off the shoulder low cut dress and messy long hair. You want to be taken seriously, dress appropiately. The clothes are a distraction from what you are saying.

Kiwiqueen123 Fri 02-Feb-24 09:09:13

I've just commented on this to my husband. Had to do a double take!

Judy54 Fri 02-Feb-24 14:58:46

No you are not wrong. I attended a funeral recently and one of the Mourners although wearing a black dress accessorised it with large diamante earrings and necklace. She was wearing killer heels and bright red lipstick and definitely looked as though She was going out clubbing rather than attending a funeral.

AreWeThereYet Fri 02-Feb-24 15:13:57

Why does it matter what someone wears?? Does it make her less of an expert? Times have changed. You're allowed to be glam now and have a brain.

Prof Alice Roberts - pink hair and distressed jeans? Prof Brian Cox - Tshirts and an untidy mop?

Oreo Fri 02-Feb-24 15:24:55

AreWeThereYet

Why does it matter what someone wears?? Does it make her less of an expert? Times have changed. You're allowed to be glam now and have a brain.

Prof Alice Roberts - pink hair and distressed jeans? Prof Brian Cox - Tshirts and an untidy mop?

Except, they don’t look glam!

I lean towards the OP’s point really, being human we make snap judgements about how people look and dress and if it’s appropriate to their position in life.That means taking them less seriously, which where women are concerned is def a bad thing as women have worked so hard to get into senior positions.Without being too stuffy or snooty about it, if a man or woman has any job with influence then they should dress in a way that reflects it.

Oreo Fri 02-Feb-24 15:27:51

Am talking about when they’re in the public eye obvs, on tv or being interviewed.What they wear at home is up to them.

SeaWoozle Tue 20-Feb-24 23:28:53

AreWeThereYet

Why does it matter what someone wears?? Does it make her less of an expert? Times have changed. You're allowed to be glam now and have a brain.

Prof Alice Roberts - pink hair and distressed jeans? Prof Brian Cox - Tshirts and an untidy mop?

Exactly this! Society's perception is that women should be dressed smartly and more feminine to be more like a 'real' woman. But not too smart or too feminine otherwise it makes them look too 'tarty'. But if they wear a suit then they must be gay. And if they wear casual clothes then they're lazy and can't be bothered with themselves. We can't chuffing win!!

Women should be supporting women, not dragging them down.

SeaWoozle Tue 20-Feb-24 23:31:20

Anyone seen Barbie? This is one of the most incredibly moving monologues I have EVER heard. I cried.

"You have to be thin, but not too thin. And you can never say you want to be thin. You have to say you want to be healthy, but also you have to be thin. You have to have money, but you can't ask for money because that's crass. You have to be a boss, but you can't be mean. You have to lead, but you can't squash other people's ideas. You're supposed to love being a mother, but don't talk about your kids all the damn time. You have to be a career woman but also always be looking out for other people.

You have to answer for men's bad behavior, which is insane, but if you point that out, you're accused of complaining. You're supposed to stay pretty for men, but not so pretty that you tempt them too much or that you threaten other women because you're supposed to be a part of the sisterhood.

But always stand out and always be grateful. But never forget that the system is rigged. So find a way to acknowledge that but also always be grateful.

You have to never get old, never be rude, never show off, never be selfish, never fall down, never fail, never show fear, never get out of line. It's too hard! It's too contradictory and nobody gives you a medal or says thank you! And it turns out in fact that not only are you doing everything wrong, but also everything is your fault.

I'm just so tired of watching myself and every single other woman tie herself into knots so that people will like us. And if all of that is also true for a doll just representing women, then I don't even know"

Callistemon21 Tue 20-Feb-24 23:41:21

Prof Roberts is usually charging around a field or on a dig somewhere.
I think she dresses appropriately.

Prof Cox can wear whatever he likes, I'm still happy to watch him!

I do take your pont about nightclubbing clothes, though.

Elrel Tue 20-Feb-24 23:43:31

At least we’ve moved on rom radio newsreaders in dinner jackets and Fanny Craddock cooking in an evening gown!

Chestnut Wed 21-Feb-24 00:09:26

I do remember Suzannah Lipscomb presenting history programmes on TV. She is a very beautiful historian with a huge mess of long blonde curls and a liking for red dresses and red nail varnish. Put the three together and you have a huge distraction. It is very difficult to concentrate on what she's saying when she's dressed like that because she looks so eye catching, so I imagine men would find it even harder. I never have trouble following Lucy Worsley's narrative.

I suppose what I'm saying is that a presenter shouldn't be competing with their subject matter for the viewer's attention. So I agree with the OP that the presenter should dress in a more professional manner as you would expect in an office.

Sago Wed 21-Feb-24 09:11:28

I’m happy for Dan Snow to present is just a pair of shorts.

BigBertha1 Wed 21-Feb-24 09:43:36

I love the Barbie quotes and recognise all of them as 'truth' but I came across a bug white wedding while I was in town on Saturday and I think my mouth actually did drop open 2 large white stretch limos produced 6 adults bridesmaids and a bride with the lowest cut dresses for a church wedding I have ever seen. There was yards of boobage in danger of falling out and acres of tattoos. I know I'll get told off but there you go I was genuinely shocked.

Katie59 Wed 21-Feb-24 10:07:02

How you decide to dress projects an image, others WILL judge you by that image, it’s your choice if you want to get noticed wear something revealing or outrageous. If you want to blend in tone it down, you can still look attractive without looking like a tattooed dogs dinner.
My own dress is casual, jeans and a pretty top for almost all occasions, OH mirrors that, jeans and a rugby top or a check shirt

rafichagran Wed 21-Feb-24 10:23:55

It's about dressing appropriately, for the situation you are in. Would these people wear full business garb in a night club?

If a person is going out to enjoy themselves they should wear what they like.

eazybee Wed 21-Feb-24 10:38:27

It's the weather presenters, male and female, who astonish me.
The men in shrunken suits and the women in cocktail dresses and vertiginous heels; lots of hair tossing and pouts at the camera, both sexes. Why no middle aged people?
It all distracts from their delivery but it makes them into personalities.

Callistemon21 Wed 21-Feb-24 10:43:22

eazybee

It's the weather presenters, male and female, who astonish me.
The men in shrunken suits and the women in cocktail dresses and vertiginous heels; lots of hair tossing and pouts at the camera, both sexes. Why no middle aged people?
It all distracts from their delivery but it makes them into personalities.

They look quite middle-aged to me 😁

keepcalmandcavachon Wed 21-Feb-24 10:51:18

I’m happy for Dan Snow to present is just a pair of shorts.
Indeed Sago, especially when he talks about a trebuchet!

Katie59 Wed 21-Feb-24 10:51:30

Presenters on the BBC are middle aged Carol Kirkwood is 61 others I guess are 40+. On ITV they look younger, you have to allow that 50 is the new 40, well cared for we can all look younger than our years.

Primrose53 Wed 21-Feb-24 14:26:19

It does still matter to some people how professional people dress. At our GP surgery we have a couple of GPs who look very scruffy. One in filthy trainers like he’s just come off an allotment and scruffy old walking trousers. Another female Doctor is huge and wears great baggy hippy skirts that drag on the floor and tight T shirts that show all her lumps and bumps.

You can usually get in to see either of them but there’s a waiting list to see one GP who always looks the business in a sharp suit, spotless shirt, tie and polished shoes.

Nannan2 Wed 21-Feb-24 14:44:01

One of DD's once arrived (late) at her own childs christening wearing the shortest 'clubbiest'dress i'd seen her wear in a long time!-(she said she'd been made late getting kids dressed & was all she had ready) but it was frowned on (i think) by the catholic priest, and yes, as her mother, i did admonish her after the ceremony!

Nannan2 Wed 21-Feb-24 14:47:30

Calistemon-the weather people look middle-aged to me as well😂🤣

Callistemon21 Wed 21-Feb-24 15:07:11

Well, my favourite local weatherman is 59 smile

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 21-Feb-24 17:28:43

If you’re a professional person you need to present yourself accordingly if you want to be taken seriously. That applies particularly to women, like it or not. It doesn’t mean you have to wear frumpy clothes and flat shoes - I certainly didn’t, but neither did I dress for the office as though I was ‘on the pull’.

Primrose53 Wed 21-Feb-24 17:47:08

I have noticed some of the women who do the weather forecasts and also presenters actually, wear these block colour dresses which are really tight. You can see all their underwear showing through. I understand patterns look odd on camera but they need to go up a dress size when wearing block colours.

Another profession that looks slovenly are social workers or SW Practitioners. I met a few when Mum was alive and most of them looked very scruffy with loads of nose and eyebrow piercings.