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Strange (but new?) accent.

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greenmossgiel Mon 01-Aug-11 17:20:53

Why is it that suddenly, some young people who live in the south seem to have adopted a different accent to that which their elders have? It's as if they've developed a certain type of speech. Last night I watched 'Strict Parents' programme - (I can't remember the name of the programme). The mother of the girl commented on her daughter's accent, saying that she spoke like a gangster. Why do they do this? It's not a London accent, or anything like anything I've heard from anyone living in the south of the country. confused

JessM Tue 02-Aug-11 06:46:02

There has something called "estuarine English" spreading in recent years. Even P William sounds completely different to his own dear GM.
However I think you may be talking about a hip/hop influenced street accent affected by some teenagers... I think it is very interesting that we now have lots of new accents e.g. a London based Asian accent. innit?

greenmossgiel Tue 02-Aug-11 08:58:29

JessM - that is it! It's the hip-hop influenced street accent I've picked up on! Living where I do, I don't come across it unless it's on television, and yes, you're right that it's interesting that a new accent may have evolved. I wonder though, if it will remain, and we'll have grannies and grandads talking this way in their 90's? Er...innit? [hmmgrin

JessM Tue 02-Aug-11 12:30:51

It is derived from west indian but there is also a UK asian variant.
"Ali G" famously took the mick out of this way of talking. It was pretty funny as he convinced all kinds of prestigious people.
If you never came across this icon of Uk culture it's best read up on Wiki as it is complicated (I never realised til now that Sacha Ben Cohen was not in fact his original name - the man with many identities... )

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_G

GeraldineGransnet (GNHQ) Tue 02-Aug-11 12:42:00

There was a really interesting Stephen Fry (Fry's English Delight) programme on Radio 4 yesterday morning about accents - how it used to be fashionable to talk posher than you really were but now it's the opposite (think Tony Blair, Prince William). A voice coach spoke about how vowels were pronounced quite differently in the 1930s - 'cat' would be 'cet'.

Really eye opening, or ear-opening - made you think it was all just fashion. Worth catching up with. www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00lv1k1

Baggy Tue 02-Aug-11 13:40:18

Mitchell and Webb (on Youtube?) are very funny about this.
Random to the max!

greenmossgiel Tue 02-Aug-11 14:13:08

I'd heard of Ali G, but never took much notice, because it wasn't my type of humour! I looked at the Wiki information though, and it made it a lot clearer. Going to listen to the Stephen Fry programme on 'catch-up' - looks very interesting. smile

numberplease Tue 02-Aug-11 16:16:00

Fatboy on Eastenders is another example, but he`s tamed his accent down a bit lately!

JessM Tue 02-Aug-11 18:33:39

Good old wikipaedia eh.
Does anyone else find it really difficult to locate missed radio programmes on bbc.co.uk?

greenmossgiel Tue 02-Aug-11 18:41:29

I just listened to Stephen Fry's programme on my computer. Had to use my earphones though, as DH was watching some afternoon rubbish on TV. Weather too horrible today to do anything else! Programme really was good - all that 'U and 'Non-U' Id forgotten about that! smile