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To find Claudia Winkelman the most irritating woman on TV?

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Deedaa Mon 12-Nov-12 21:29:51

In 1963 I looked just like Claudia Winkelman - of course I was only 17 at the time! Why does a grown woman with children want to go round looking like an overgrown schoolgirl in a little Dollyrocker dress? Why has no one taken a pair of scissors to that dreadful fringe that she peers through. Why has no one told her that black eyes and white lips hasn't been a good look for 45 years? And WHY does she have to ruin perfectly good programmes with her inane remarks and giggles. I used to love the BBC's film programme - I even managed to put up with Jonathan Ross presenting it- but I only managed half an hour when she took over and I had to switch off before I threw something through the screen. I record the Strictly results show so I can fast forward through her bits and the Strictly- it takes two show is an obvious non starter. angry

Nanban Wed 14-Nov-12 19:11:20

Oh dear, oh dear - I simply have no clue about any of these women!!!! But I do think it's pretty certain that the very characterful Claudia will step up to Bruce's spot!

Ana Wed 14-Nov-12 19:13:15

Noooooo! shock

Greatnan Wed 14-Nov-12 19:40:06

I see Carol Vordeman is back advertising some food supplement - is there no end to this woman's greed?

JessM Wed 14-Nov-12 19:52:23

Now that is irritating. And not because of how she looks, what she wears or how she talks.

Nanban Thu 15-Nov-12 17:17:00

Nope, it's because she is exploiting her limited cleverness to best effect! Come on, who's gonna vote for Claudia! Actually, I've just remembered I was on Countdown in the Richard Whiteley days and Carol was completely marvellous - as opposed to RW who was not.

PS: I lost

numberplease Thu 15-Nov-12 17:57:17

Aw Nanban, you`ve just burst one of my bubbles! I always thought that Richard Whitely was lovely.

Nanban Thu 15-Nov-12 18:51:32

He was very, very grumpy! Carol was all about the place being nice to everyone - Rick Wakeman was with Susie and he too was lovely. Whitely was a bit of a Prima. Maybe if I'd won, I'd have liked him more of course.

merlotgran Thu 15-Nov-12 22:39:42

My daughter used to work for Rick Wakeman when his marriage to Nina Carter was hitting the rocks. She is still in touch with him and his kids.

trendygran Fri 16-Nov-12 21:38:01

Carol Vorderman really annoys me with her smug attitude to herself. I don't watch Loose Women too often, but always turn it off very fast if she's 'in charge'.
For Midlanders, Anne Davies ,of local news, is my 'annoyance'. She's a good presenter but constantly tries to be a fashion model ,with different, often much too young for her, outfits, every day --not to mention the hairstyles !
All our other female presenters look so much nicer, and aren't afraid to wear the same outfit more than once. She's on TV this evening and looks awful in a black 'nightie' dress and bouffant hair.
I do like Louise Minchin and Fiona Bruce though!

JessM Sat 17-Nov-12 07:48:48

Let's hear it for Claudia. Infinitely better than Bruce. And I admire her determined resistance of conventional glamorous fashion.
Not easy to do with a welter of magazines making a living out of picking holes in the appearance of any woman in the news. Nasty misogynistic publications all.
She's better at delivering a line than Bruce too.

Nanadog Sat 17-Nov-12 08:08:27

I actually like a lot of the strong, lively, successful young women named on this thread. Wasn't it Christine Bleakley who water-skied across the channel for CiN one year?
Too much misogynism. I expect it from my ma-in-laws generation who were brought to believe men were gods, but not in my generation.

absentgrana Sat 17-Nov-12 08:13:12

Nanadog This thread is about irritating women, so it's a bit much to all it misogynistic. If we started a thread on irritating men, I'm sure we could go on for days and days – and be superbly misandrist.

Riverwalk Sat 17-Nov-12 08:47:29

Over 30 years ago I worked for Anthea Redfern (Brucie's second wife) both were very nice people.

It was a pity that her role on The Generation Game required her to be the 'dumb blonde' - as off screen she was quick-witted with a great sense of humour. If her career had taken a different path she could have been more of a Joanna Lumley figure.

It's a disappointment that after all these decades young women are still seen as, in the main, 'TV hostesses' as opposed to the main presenter.

But I expect they're earning a lot of money, so good luck to them.

Nanadog Sat 17-Nov-12 08:51:49

Well absentgroan I don't find them irritating and I don't quite understand your post but I think that's because you've missed a word out somewhere? ???
I actually agree with jessm for once wink
Surely you are not saying I cannot say I don't find them irritating?

crimson Sat 17-Nov-12 09:06:35

I've never forgiven Carol Vorderman for advertising some sort of loan company; anyone who encourages people with financial problems to borrow money from unscrupulous companies when they should be contacting CAB or their bank is disgusting imo. I'm afraid something like that clouds my opinion on someone forever.

absentgrana Sat 17-Nov-12 09:15:19

Nanadog I missed out a letter – the word should have been call not all (it misogynistic). You are, of course, entitled to like or dislike any of the women mentioned here or anywhere else for that matter, but I felt it was unreasonable to suggest that those of us who found some of them irritating were being misogynistic. I am pretty sure that most, if not all of us do not regard men as gods but the original post happened to be talking about women not men. I for one could certainly write a lengthy list of men who irritate me, starting with Terry Wogan and working up.

absentgrana Sat 17-Nov-12 09:16:34

Nanadog Is your spelling "mistake" deliberate? shock

JessM Sat 17-Nov-12 11:24:37

Occurred to me a few years ago that there are many more "irritating women" on the Archers than there are "irritating men".
Sounds like the latest nasty reality TV thing in the jungle is mainly about bullying women to eat worms.
The world is a misogynistic one and we can all behave in a misogynistic manner from time to time. I will hold up my hand as one of the guilty.

crimson Sat 17-Nov-12 11:42:54

Perhaps we expect more from women than men?

JessM Sat 17-Nov-12 11:54:19

Well I think that is right crimson and no wonder, when men commit the vast majority of crimes, for instance.
But it is not fair to expect higher standards of youthful beauty on women doing same jobs as men.
Imagine if Strictly was presented by an attractive young man with a flirtatious manner and a nice northern accent, while top billing went to an 84 year old female entertainer (much loved in her day of course) whose trademark seems to be delivering lame jokes badly? grin

Ana Sat 17-Nov-12 11:59:38

What a wonderful thought, Jess! grin

crimson Sat 17-Nov-12 12:47:13

I'm sure when Claudia took over the Film programme after Jonathan Ross had to leave she bemoaned the fact that she wasn't pretty enough for high profile work. It's so unfair that women have such constant pressure on them to look good. And, if we're honest about it, it's us women that are the biggest critics. I've long believed that women dress for other women; not men. Since when did a man notice well manicured nails for instance. Or could they describe which earrings their girlfriend/wife was wearig the night before?

absentgrana Sat 17-Nov-12 12:57:25

crimson Men probably don't notice well manicured nails but I bet they notice dirty, broken or chewed ones.

Ana Sat 17-Nov-12 12:57:57

I can't quite follow your reasoning there, crimson. Why would Claudia Winkelman think she wasn't pretty enough for high profile work? I think she's a terrible replacement for Jonathan Ross, who for all his faults did have extensive knowledge of films in general, but I don't think the powers-that-be gave the job to Claudia because of or despite her looks!

crimson Sat 17-Nov-12 13:34:09

She did say something about her looks in an interview, but I don't know who interviewed her or which publication it was for. I only saw Film Night a couple of times after she took over [and that wasn't for the whole programme] but wasn't impressed with the way she presented it. However, the comment about her looks [whatever it was she said] made me warm to her somewhat. I'd assume the BBC would have had to fill the gap quite quickly when Wossy left, but I do expect my film pundits to be as obsessed about film as I am [ which Wossy was; I mean, look at his wife's achievements in that sphere].