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Will you be donating to Children in Need on Friday, or are you as angry with the BBC as I am?

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whenim64 Thu 15-Nov-12 11:17:13

I have decided, for the first time, not to donate to Friday's televised Children in Need appeal. Word is spreading that the BBC are anxious about donations plummeting this year, given the current scandals about Savile and Newsnight. This will be a public way to show how we feel about cover-ups and neglect of child safety at the BBC. I don't want children who benefit from donations to lose out, so will be giving to NSPCC and Save the Children instead. Presumably, children's charities will report in due course that donations to them have rocketed as a direct result of a boycott.

Anne58 Thu 15-Nov-12 11:25:15

when , to be honest I hadn't realised it was this Friday, I think you have made a very valid point, especially with regard to donating to other charities instead.

Ana Thu 15-Nov-12 11:27:42

I agree. I intend to do the same.

whenim64 Thu 15-Nov-12 11:28:03

Just checked out Mumsnet and a few other forums, where similar threads are very active.

soop Thu 15-Nov-12 12:04:23

We have a monthly standing order for a donation to NSPCC. I haven't yet decided whether or not to donate to Children in Need. The children are innocent. The BBC is down-right shameful. Difficult!

whenim64 Thu 15-Nov-12 12:13:36

Yes, I have a standing order with NSPCC and a few other charities, but I feel I want to make my protest felt and it's looking like donations will fall this Friday, but so many people are saying they will still donate to a children's charity. How awful that it has come to this - the BBC really needs to take a hard look at itself.

Ana Thu 15-Nov-12 12:21:57

Yes, I don't think children will be losing out. Apart from the few who only ever donate to this event, some of whom may not do so this year, I think most of us give regularly to children's and other charities. We have a standing order to NSPCC as well, but will be making an extra donation - haven't quite decided where, yet.

jO5 Thu 15-Nov-12 12:23:12

Can't help but to donate to it via those kids riding rickshaw bikes from N Wales to London for the One Show. How could you not?

Can't see any point in c0nnecting Children in Need with the Savile stuff or the rest of the beeb.

jO5 Thu 15-Nov-12 12:24:06

soop You're right. The children are innocent.

celebgran Thu 15-Nov-12 13:08:16

we will be donating to the Saalalm trust in India where we saw the little boys in the orphanage, that is real poverty unlike anything in the UK.

I have long been wary of charities especially the ones that send me cards etc which must cost so much.
Admin charges etc take so much of the donations.

Ihave friend who volunteers at RSPCA and they give him reduced vet treatment for his pet, but surely this is public money and should not be used in this way?? I obviously do not comment to him but he is very wealthy and surely should not take advantage of this albeit he is helping them.

granjura Thu 15-Nov-12 13:18:24

Why punish the children???

whenim64 Thu 15-Nov-12 13:33:25

No, we should not deprive children. The aim of my protest is to deprive the BBC of kudos for collecting record amounts, which will detract from the current mess they are trying to hide. I will ensure I donate elsewhere what I would have given to CIN, so children don't miss out.

jO5 Thu 15-Nov-12 13:48:13

Yes, but I don't suppose everyone will donate elsewhere.

If this catches on it could be disastrous for the kids.

whenim64 Thu 15-Nov-12 14:12:00

Those of us who feel strongly about children being protected will donate, wherever that might be. If it proves to be a successful boycott, the Beeb will be under pressure, especially the executives and all those 'privately contracted' celebs who stash their untaxed money off shore with the help of the Beeb. Perhaps they'd like to donate their unpaid tax to make up any shortfall. Sometimes, we have to make a stand. angry

Nanadog Thu 15-Nov-12 14:12:23

Two wrongs don't make a right.
Yes, certain individuals inside the BBC made terrible, unfirgiveable mistakes but the institution that is the BBC is also a power for good and it was, and still is, one of the most respected institutions in the world. There are also those who have a vested interest in the BBC being brought low. I would say the BBC needs our support now, more than ever.

soop Thu 15-Nov-12 14:12:50

jings I shall donate to Children in Need, because they deserve our generosity. smile

whenim64 Thu 15-Nov-12 14:19:09

Why is it wrong to give my money to two children's charities direct? Yet another Beeb employee has been arrested today. I will not collude with the Beeb by showing support until they earn my trust back. angry

We complain about overseas aid being paid via governments that don't look after their citizens, and circumvent this by helping those in need directly, where we can. When the corruption at the Beeb has been eliminated, I will support CIN again.

Nanadog Thu 15-Nov-12 14:30:42

I didn't mean to make you angry when my remarks were not directed at you personally. There are so many little charities than are hardly ever heard of that are supported by the Children in Need appeal. It amazes me every year when I watch it. These are the ones that will lose out.
If you want to give your money somewhere else then no one is stopping you or even criticising you, but I'd hate to think that there is a generic reaction against such a worthy cause because of a paedophile.
That's what I meant by two wrongs.

whenim64 Thu 15-Nov-12 14:45:28

I'm not angry at you nanadog! The reaction isn't just because of a paedophile. They are there in every strand of society, and we all express our worries about who lives on our street, who is looking after our children. We not expect organisations with a wholesome reputation like the Beeb to be covering up for them, or executives to be saving their own skins, rather than pro-actively helpng investigations. The Beeb needs some good news to diffuse this mess and Children in Need is just the event to exploit to make them look better. I won't be part of that.

Yes, small charities should be supported, and the Beeb should make a pledge that they will be looked after first. And if they really mean it, they'll dig out some money, the way they did for the recently fired resigned head who gets a years salary for just a few days in the job.

Nanadog Thu 15-Nov-12 14:49:38

when smile

wisewoman Thu 15-Nov-12 16:10:43

I would support the Children in Need appeal mainly because, as someone has said, they support lots of little charities most of us have not heard of - for example giving washing machines to families with disabled children, supporting bereaved siblings, providing after school car for families with problems. I am suspicious of the larger charities who seem to pay huge sums to PR people, fundraisers etc. The BBC does a huge amount of good and we surely shouldn't condemn the whole organisation for the sins of some of its members. Just my view.

Ana Thu 15-Nov-12 16:16:51

Must admit I'm coming round a bit now. I may have to just grit my teeth and donate anyway....no point letting the greedy and corrupt few (or even many) taint what is, after all, a shining jewel in the Beeb's crown.

merlotgran Thu 15-Nov-12 16:43:53

I will DEFINITELY be supporting CIN as usual. The children who are doing the rickshaw challenge have had us in tears this week. They and many many others who work hard to raise funds deserve our support. How heartbreaking it will be for them to learn that the total has plummeted this year due to the actions of selfish and corrupt individuals. If support is disappointing it could also have a knock on effect next year as celebs might be reluctant to give up their time for something that is losing popularity. Watching the total rise is an exciting part of the programme for some people.

Hankipanki Thu 15-Nov-12 17:00:17

I am another one who will be supporting CIN as usual. The rickshaw challenge has been inspiring. Despite the problems at the BBC boycotting donating to CIN is not the way to solve its problems.

Barrow Thu 15-Nov-12 17:07:54

A little off topic but is anyone else feeling a bit of charity fatigue? I have my three favourite charities which I donate to on a regular basis, I also donate what I can to Children in Need, but there has just been an appeal on local radio for the local Dogs and Cats home asking for donations of £25! Its not often that you see someone with a collection tin these days (except for the Poppy Appeal) but now they want you to sign up to pay a regular direct debit. I'm sure it makes their budgeting easier but just makes me feel guilty that I can't give to them all