to feel despair at the gay marriage vote

messenger not sure why you don't just join a specialist agency.

Maybe you should check out 'bums & tums' classes at your local gym - Hunter says the ladies there are very amiable, not sure of their ages though.

Hi Riverwalk..`bums and tums`from my neighbour `Hunter`..well Riverwalk believe it or not I happen to be a shy retiring type of person and could not envisage myself engaging a lady/ladies in such public places besides which I do my exersising in private . Worth a thought though!

Oh, he's back again with the salacious comments...

Indeed Ariadne and he used that very word on another thread, but in big shouty capitals.

I'm a bit frustrated with Mollie: she dropped a bomb against gay marriage and departed in a pre-emptive huff.

I would like some feedback from our arguments, but it ain't gonna happen. Her forum name suggests she's three years younger than me ( i was born 1945), or perhaps 20 years: we early and later baby boomers, and many pre-baby boomers knew how to question everything, and change what we didn't like. We refused to be brainwashed by the status quo. We were happy to see anti-gay laws vanish and the law removing itself from the bedrooms of consenting adults. We are broad minded and open to new ideas.

But Mollie65 asks:
Am I being unreasonable to feel despair at the gay marriage vote, so I will sign off permanently: cannot find common ground with those who are so ecstatic about this undermining of a foundation of our society.

I'm not sure anyone is ecstatic; just a sort of quiet satisfaction than another injustice is about to vanish. And as for undermining the foundation of our society - what foundation? I just don't understand. Is discrimination a foundation of our society? I don't think so. Who does gay marriage hurt? No-one that I can imagine.

Grrrrrrrrr

Evidently marriage is the foundation of our society joan... an interesting proposition for a debate.
But are you really pining for mollie to return to debate - I think she had firmly made up her mind before opening the issue. Sometimes people start AIBU threads in the hope of getting support for their views. If it doesn't happen then why would they stick around?

Well, I suppose we must concede it was certainly the foundation of the good old laws of property - a husband owned everything, his wife, her fortune, the children - and woe betide her if she stepped out of line. I think our society is a hell of a lot better without that kind of foundation.

Doesn't bother me when people go off in a childish huff. We still had a good discussion. Thanks, mollie.

I think it is probably true that "marriage" – adult pair bonding of some sort – is one of the first and main building blocks of our society.