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To think that chicken is produced in the UK?

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Wheniwasyourage Thu 21-Mar-13 15:38:08

This lunchtime I treated myself to a chicken wrap from Tesco. It tasted fine but I was horrified to see, on reading the packet(which I should have done before I bought it, I know, I know), that it was made with chicken from Thailand. shock Have I missed the announcement that we do not produce chicken any more? Buying mangoes from Thailand is one thing, but chicken!! There are so many problems with this - support for British farmers, food miles, animal welfare queries - that I'm not sure where to begin. I have complained and will see what, if anything transpires - I'll let you know. [seething emoticon]

gracesmum Thu 21-Mar-13 15:41:41

That would have made me so angry - on several counts too- food miles, British farmers, living conditions for poultry, avian flu, waste of bl***y money and the whole Tesco ethos as well! angry Hope your complaint is effective. (Are you on Twitter? Sounds like a valid Tweet)

Wheniwasyourage Thu 21-Mar-13 15:46:44

No. It takes me all my time to keep up with email and GN so I have resisted both Facebook and Twitter. There's little enough dusting gets done in this house as it is!

gracesmum Thu 21-Mar-13 15:52:27

I was thinkiing that maybe the threat of it might add more weight? Big name firms do not like bad publicity.

gangy5 Thu 21-Mar-13 16:03:12

Yes Wheniwasyourage because the man at the top of Tesco promised a month ago that all Chicken was to be sourced from Britain. We have been importing chicken from Thailand for some years now - are there any welfare standards, what are they fed etc. etc. ????

Wheniwasyourage Thu 21-Mar-13 16:03:51

Good idea! Thank you. I shall do that next. So far I have had an unsigned email saying that they will forward my comments to the store and share them with the team (which team? Forfar Athletic? Real Madrid?). I have replied to the effect that I am complaining about their buying chicken from Thailand, not their customer service, asked for my complaint to be sent to the person responsible and pointed out that it is considered polite, even on an email, to sign one's name.

Wheniwasyourage Thu 21-Mar-13 16:07:49

Sorry, my last post was in answer to gracesmum. You're right, gangy5, we don't know nearly as much about the chicken which is imported as we should about chicken produced in the UK. In future, I shall get my chicken from the local butcher, who knows where it comes from, and will make my own wraps!

NfkDumpling Thu 21-Mar-13 16:13:26

If it's ready made chances are it's not British.

I was shocked to find Pizza Express chicken comes from Brazil!

Wheniwasyourage Thu 21-Mar-13 16:16:17

This gets more and more ridiculous, doesn't it? confused

NfkDumpling Thu 21-Mar-13 16:17:16

Also - i was told by my Austalian cousin that apparently Thai chicken often has added steroids - hence the increase in man boobs in Oz where they import a lot of Thai chickens.

absent Thu 21-Mar-13 16:24:56

When supermarkets say that they will source their chicken in the UK, they mean whole chickens or chicken portions, not sandwich fillings or even pie fillings unless they have specified these. The reason it comes from Thailand is that it is cheaper than British chicken – even including all the air miles.

Mishap Thu 21-Mar-13 16:29:52

I have been tempted to contact the main supermarkets that do home deliveries to suggest that they should have a section of UK produced products so that those of us who want to buy British can do so without having to sift through the details of each item.

After reading this post maybe I will get on and do it - anyone else willing to join in? Perhaps gransnet would like to start a campaign?

kittylester Thu 21-Mar-13 16:57:25

I'm with you Mishap but not just for home deliveries.

Today, my lovely butcher closed his shop for the last time (they are building a road through his shop) and I'm now floundering a bit about where to buy our meat as I have been buying from him for over 30 years and the options to buy locally sourced stuff seem to be dwindling fast. sad

Stansgran Thu 21-Mar-13 17:09:04

There are plenty of Farmers Markets around. Local farmers will have farm shops as well. There seem to be no end of restaurants which tell you who their suppliers are. We went to a pub recently at hedley on the hill and they gave us a list of their suppliers .

Mishap Thu 21-Mar-13 17:40:24

I have taken the liberty of starting a new thread about encouraging online supermarkets to have a UK produced section and as you will see Tesco have rung me and said that this is in the pipeline.

I think that the more people who contact them to say they want this, the quicker more supermarkets will jump on the bandwagon, as it is a good selling point.

Farmers'markets are brilliant for those who are mobile and can get there, but some of us need to shop online and would like to have the choice to buy British

glassortwo Thu 21-Mar-13 17:56:36

stan you should Have dropped in for a cuppa I live 5 mins from the pub.[grin ] I am with you all on this I am Off to See other thread.

Anne58 Thu 21-Mar-13 18:03:06

When I'm not a great user of social media (facebook, twitter etc) but have found it can be useful, especially in relation to complaints.

Just as an example, I had a problem with some paint from B&Q recently, used the "contact us" section on their website, no response even after around 4 weeks.

Then posted a comment on their facebook page and got a response within an hour!

Thing is, complain via their website, only they see it, put it on facebook or twitter, the whole world (metaphorically) sees it!

Elegran Thu 21-Mar-13 18:21:20

Mishap I don't know about GNHQ, but Gransnet Edinburgh mentions it on their Facebook page.

Stansgran Thu 21-Mar-13 18:41:52

Thanks Glass and if you could steal the biscuit recipe The Feathersy serve with the coffee I will be forever in your debt

Wheniwasyourage Thu 21-Mar-13 21:07:29

Well done, Mishap - I've just read the other thread. You're quite right; we need to keep on at these people until they realise that while there is a place for cheap food there are also problems with making cheapness the only criterion for deciding what to put in it. angry

Nfk, I am now going to be able to blame the steroids in my chicken wrap when I next weigh myself and find I've put on half a stone. hmm

if anyone wants to put on Facebook or Twitter that someone has told them about Tesco making their chicken wraps with chicken from Thailand, go ahead! It might be worth having a go at Pizza Express too. angryagain

Wheniwasyourage Tue 26-Mar-13 15:42:25

Just found an email from someone at Tesco customer services saying that she understands my concerns (oh good) about chicken coming from Thailand and that they are working to ensure that all their fresh chicken will be from the UK, but for some reason, not their frozen chicken or the stuff in their ready meals. I know their wraps aren't frozen, but are they not a form of ready meal? Safer just not to buy them, I think!

Nanban Tue 02-Apr-13 19:04:25

Lived and worked in Thailand where they produced labels saying Made in France, Made in almost anywhere - and, of course, we have no control over anything put into the product. If supermarkets ask us to pay more will they reform and buy British - nope - already there are 'ways around' labelling imported allsorts - will they just pocket the difference - yup. The only way to be sure of what you are eating is buy it yourself locally, and cook it, wrap it, spread it, yourself.

An-other tale - a major supermarket ran out of 'welsh lamb' - their policy was to load lorries with lamb, drive it over the border into Wales, let the driver sleep over, and the consignment gets re-labelled the next day as Welsh Lamb. And I truly had that from the horse's [hah] mouth.

FlicketyB Wed 03-Apr-13 08:07:39

I have stopped eating chicken outside my own, or friends and families homes not only because of my concerns about the welfare standards of poultry imported from overseas but also concern about the quality of life of chickens reared in the UK.

As Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall's programmes last(?) year showed last year officially acceptable standards are very low.

I buy only free range or organic chicken. More expensive but I just serve smaller portions and eat it less frequently.

NfkDumpling Wed 03-Apr-13 15:23:34

I do the same Flickety, but it can lead to a very restricted menu in chain restaurants. I'm becoming increasingly veggie when eating out.

Nanban Wed 03-Apr-13 17:56:22

Free range and organic can also be imported and maybe the accreditation not totally honest. Free range is especially iffy in this country let alone elsewhere - it may be for instance that the animal/chicken is only 'free range' for a day or two before slaughter. Organic implies without the use of chemicals but in fact some of the alternatives are even more dangerous.