Just heard from DD......

Neither she has extreme fatigue of early pregnancy, exacerbated by insomniac 21month dd.

Well, that was nice for you anyway Galen. Hope daughter gets well again soon.

In about 7months probably!

Yes! She's not exactly ill is she!

To be fair, they're trying to pack the house up as well as they have to out of it by week Wednesday. The new house has not completed yet, searches etc still going on,so their moving in with his parents as its closer to their work than I am.

Jing tell that to her! She's sick all the time and feels nauseous and extremely fatigued! Last time she got pubic symphysis problems as well. I had that with both of mine and with her (the second) I couldn't walk at all. I haven't pointed that out to her.

No. Best keep quiet about that. Poor daughter. Sounds rotten.

I think I'm looking forward to another grandchild?

Why wouldn't you?

ANOTHER BIRTHDAY to remember! I almost forgot DDs on Wednesday!

And with Frank in mind, more expense! (tongue in cheek)

Oh! Birthdays are an excuse (if you need one) for exciting retail therapy. Enjoy 'em.

I wonder if like me, Galen you are wondering if you could possibly love a second GC as much as the first?
It took me a little longer to love little fellow's little bro as much as his bigger brother, because I had to get to know him and felt I should give my time to the bigger boy in case he got jealous - he was little more than a baby himself at the time.
For me the visceral (?) love thing which hit me when number 1 was born was quite a shock so I was more prepared for no 2 - I do love him every bit as much now but those first weeks/months with no 1 were unique.
I feel I should now run for cover after my confession!!!

That's exactly how I feel. I wasn't at all sure I wanted to be a gran. But now! Well!

gracesmum; I desperately wanted a grandaughter with my second grandchild [as it was, at the time, almost certain to be my last grandchild]. It took me ages to feel the same way about the second boy that I did about the first [I'd spent so much time looking after the eldest for the first few years as well and spent much less time with the second one]. The S.O. always tells me that the first grandchild is always special in some way, and I think he's right. I think, as well, that they needed me more with the first one and by the time they had the second they were more of a self contained family unit. I now love seeing the two boys play together although they are quite different in character [one is very edgy and quirky, the other much more laid back and technical]. This may sound strange as well but the eldest looked very much like my children when they were young, whereas I didn't 'recognise' the younger one when I first saw him.

I was the same. Was more needed with the first and so had more time to fall completely head over heels in love. Adore the second one now though. Well, both of them #canyoutell

I suspect the immediate bond I felt for both of my grandsons is the result of being present at their births. At six weeks the little one has yet to reveal his personality and I'm so looking forward to getting to know him. My three year old grandson has oodles of character and as Tegan has also mentioned, both the boys had a look of my own children so there was a sort of instant recognition.

Why is it that I had a more immediate rapport with the three boys than I had with the two girls? I have a great relationship with the GDs now. Maybe little girls are more inscrutable. GS1 revealed himself to me immediately the day he was born. I somehow 'knew' he had a sense of humour - and he is now the family joker.

GS1 reached his little arm out to me when he heard my voice. (Grandad was holding him) At about a week old.

I had GS2's first real smile.

soppy

Oh I am glad I am not alone in this - I was almost afraid to admit it!

I think if I am being truthfull I felt a smidgin of this when I was expecting my 2nd I wondered if I could love a second baby as much as the 1st, it was worrying but I didnt need to have worried.

glass I felt exactly the same when I was expecting my 2nd but the minute he was born I fell totally in love with him.

Time will tell 7/12 to go!

sook it was that first eye to eye contact that did it, I need not have worried.

I have just tried to arrange a meeting of some sort with my daughter tomorrow (the only day she is not at work )to hand over an Easter present for my grandson.as I won't see them at the weekend. I was told that she did not know what she was doing yet and was clearly not going to arrange anything tonight. I can't help but feel upset at her attitude ,as it's a different story if babysitting is required. I was shouted at the one time I refused because I was involved in a Christmas event elsewhere.
Am I being unreasonable?
I have no wish to fall out with my daughter, but worry that she seems to have become quite selfish .---and I really want my GS to have his egg in time for Easter.