AIBU to ask if you are aware of the petition on gender identity and women's rights?

My DH is involved in Women's sports.
I asked what would happen in men turned up and said they identified as women but kept their beard and penis

Then he signed

Signed

Signed.

Yes me too. Signed.

Feel strongly about this. Signed. Good luck.

I have signed previously! I'm glad to see this petition being more widely disseminated.

My DH is involved in Women's sports.
I asked what would happen in men turned up and said they identified as women

It's already happening in sports.

Depressing, given that on one hand we laud films like Battle of the Sexes (Billie Jean King's story) but on the other in the arena of non-competitive sport, Swim England has issued guidance that:

^Some swimmers who were born female but now identify
differently may wear what is called a ‘binder’ – this is a
tight piece of material that is wrapped around the top half
of the body in order to compress breasts to conceal them
behind clothing. This is perfectly safe to swim in, and
should be encouraged.^

^Some swimmers may have a preference to wear less
clothing than usually expected. For example, some
swimmers may not want to wear anything on their top half,
so as to identify with their new gender, but if they have
not had top surgery this means that this person’s breasts
will be clearly visible. This needs to be talked about and an
amicable solution found. This may be appropriate to allow
during a trans specific session, but if a trans swimmer is
attending any other session in the timetable, then they
should be appropriately covered up – you wouldn’t allow a
woman to swim topless in a public session, and you need
to treat everyone the same.^

FtM trans are "encouraged" to cover up their breasts, and "not appropriately covered" if presenting as their new gender with no accommodation to how a "woman" might swim in a public session.

The double standards are rife. In professional sports it is a hot topic, and controversial.

NoSquirrels

This needs to be brought to the attention of the FA

funnily enough they are available to discuss

Should England go to the World Cup

or

What should happen to Jamie Carrigher

But what should we do with a girl with a penis ?

These threads need tweeting

I can't sign , why?

I enter my name, email, post code and it displays a full screen showing my details and a green square 'continue'.

Every time I hit the 'continue' box it keeps displaying my details and does not advance forward.

Anybody else having a problem? Am I doing something wrong?

If you have grandchildren who are in Girl Guiding - or daughters who used to be, and know how much it can give to young girls, you may be interested in this thread too, from a concerned Guide Leader:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3185944-victoria-derbyshire-today-and-girlguides

POGS once you've registered it sends you a link to your email - it may have gone to spam, so do check that folder - and once you have clicked on that it will let you sign. It's to stop people signing twice, I guess.

Squirrel

Nothing in my e.mail box as yet!

I think that could be a reason why the signature number is low, people give up or can't sign?

I will however keep a look out. Thanks.

Oh dear! Mine came through straight away. Worth trying again later, perhaps?

Signed.

I think that could be a reason why the signature number is low

It is frustratingly low at the moment but I have faith that it will gain momentum if it is covered by the media even a little, and women share amongst themselves.

It's worth noting that it's only a few days old, so whilst it's low in terms of the 33 million women in the country, it's not doing too badly for a petition that hasn't been noticed much more widely than Mumsnet and now Gransnet.

Squirrel

I must admit I did not notice it said "We will e.mal you" . I think I expected a ' submit ' facility at the time of entering my details.

Not a usual candidate for signing petitions so maybe I am not offay with how it works.

However nothing has been sent yet so I am maybe being a tad impatient! Cheers.

Signed . I had to go back into my email where there was a message waiting which I clicked on. Job done.

Signed and I'll mention it to friends & family.

The swimming pool changing room problem should not be an issue here as our pool has a unisex changing area. It makes family swimming much easier as either parent, or both, can be involved in helping with children of either sex. As all changing is done in cubicles, and showers have to be taken with swimwear on, there are no nude bodies to be seen and so which bits anyone could wave about, should they wish to, is irrelevant. Perhaps that might be a way forward if this gets any worse. I certainly hate the idea of DGDs being flashed in what should be a safe place by someone who "says" he's a woman.

Signed. Something I feel very strongly about.

Sorry, forgot to say - Thank you NoSquirrels, for bringing this to us; you've obviously hit a good seam of supporters!

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Yes I have signed the petition NoSquirrels and have been following some of the arguments over on MN. I think it's a very important matter with enormous ramifications for the female sex. I find some of the issues being mooted at the moment so bizarre it's as if we have entered a parallel universe. Good luck with the petition I do hope you reach the required amount of signatures so this matter can be debated in Parliament.

Signed.

Signed.

POGS

Check your junk mail perhaps? The email arrived in an instant for me. Did you get to the 'one more step' screen, after the screen where you enter your details?

5.300 now

I wrote to my MP a while ago about this, expressing my concern. I received a fob off letter. Pat McFadden, Labour Wolverhampton East.