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To think in 20 years we won't do it any more?

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OldHag Sat 01-Apr-23 21:48:44

Bet that title got you all wondering!

What I'm thinking, is that in 20 years, possibly even sooner, people will have stopped talking to each other altogether? The reason I say this, is that in talking to my DD last night, she was telling me about a situation that had occurred between her and one of her adult children, which had made her really cross. She explained that the conversation had all taken place via text, and I tried as gently as I could, to suggest that perhaps, as has happened between myself and her, there had been a misunderstanding on one or both of their parts, and that maybe she would be better to call or FaceTime, so as to discuss the matter properly. She cut me down by saying 'Mother, no one phones anyone these days, all communication is done by text, I bet even you don't phone people any more?' I admitted that she's partly right, in as much as I do tend to email more than text, due to us living in an area where the mobile signal is poor, but the reason I email is because in the days of landlines, you never knew if you were going to catch someone in the middle of something, ie, a bath, cooking dinner, or even having sex. So nowadays if it's something related to business, or just a relatively unimportant thing, I email so that I know the person I want to talk to, will get the message at their convenience. However, if it's a friend, I will often email in order to arrange a good time to have a chat, either by phone, FaceTime or Messenger.

Tonight I've been on MN, and someone was saying they'd made arrangements to have friends round, but was worried that they weren't going to come, as she hadn't pinned down a time when making the arrangements, and they hadn't responded to her texts. Lots of people were saying just call them, but when I said I felt that people just don't seem to want to actually speak to each other any more, again I was told that if someone doesn't answer your text, it's because they don't want to, and they're busy making an excuse to let you down, so you don't call them due to pride!!

I'm sure most of us have also seen couples, or even complete families out in restaurants, not actually talking to each other any more, but all with their eyes glued to their phones, and I wouldn’t doubt that if asked, a lot of parents would say that they would have to surgically amputate, to get a phone off of their kids.

So, having explained the reason for my question, I'm just wondering how many of you still prefer to talk to friends, either by phone or video call, or whether these younger people are right, and that no one actually talks to anyone any more, and, if you agree that this is true, do you think that it’s a good thing? Personally, I hate it, but maybe I am as old fashioned as my daughter told me I was!!

Skydancer Sat 01-Apr-23 21:55:54

I must admit to doing it but I am nothing like my DD and DGS. They are constantly on their phones. Sadly my DGS, a teenager, doesn't see the need to meet up with friends during school holidays because they spend all day messaging one another. I think it's tragic. Also, when I do manage to get his attention, it takes a little while for him to become communicative - almost as if he's in a trance. Dreadful.

HeavenLeigh Sat 01-Apr-23 22:06:44

I actually replied to that post on mumsnet so I know the one you are talking about OldHag. I do agree with you so many conversations are via text now! I’m guilty of doing it myself as are all my friends, we never call each other! My own adult children text all the time to us to ask how we are etc, we do see them though, it doesn’t really bother me as long as everyone in the family are well and everything’s ok.

Shinamae Sat 01-Apr-23 22:26:21

Most people I tend to text, but try to talk to my children on the phone at least sometimes!…🤓

tickertape Sat 01-Apr-23 22:35:23

I have never really enjoyed phoning people. I have a bit of a dread of making phone calls, to anyone, even my own children.
Being able to text and chat with people in Whatsapp, etc, has been a boon for me.
I agree that people do seem a bit trance-like now in that they seem welded to their phones. It is a shame.

Grannybags Sat 01-Apr-23 22:41:11

I text or WhatsApp too. I really shy away from phoning people. I always think it’ll be an inconvenient time to call but a text can be answered anytime.

paddyann54 Sat 01-Apr-23 22:44:21

My SIL will only call someone if its an emergency ,she doesn't like using a phone .Never has ,so txt and messenger are a godsend for her .My sister and my daughter will call for a blether ,often an hour of chat or more .Nothing better than hearing a real voice .

Doodledog Sat 01-Apr-23 22:45:44

My friends and I usually text first to see if it’s convenient to talk. Just a ‘fancy a chat?’ Message gives the other person a chance to ask for ten minutes to finish their dinner, or to see the end of something on TV - calls can be quite intrusive - but I do prefer to hear a voice than to have to type a whole conversation.

Ailidh Sun 02-Apr-23 05:59:48

I mostly WhatsApp, sometimes text, occasionally Facebook Messenger.
I've always been worried about catching people at an inconvenient moment if I ring them, so the non-audio ways of communication are great for me.

Allsorts Sun 02-Apr-23 06:13:23

Won't be here so won't worry too much. Although i think people will always want to mix, to speak to a person at the other end if the phone if they have a query and not a virtual assistant who helps not a jot.

NanaDana Sun 02-Apr-23 06:33:48

Here's one I wrote earlier..
A Lost Art?
I love to meet with friends, and to sit with them and chat,
A rewarding way to pass the time, discussing this and that,
As we set the world to rights that talk’s a favourite occupation,
A chance to join with others in the art of conversation.
But as I look around these days I worry when I see,
So many bad examples of how things have come to be.
Two girls there on the Metro left me feeling quite perplexed,
As they sat next to each other to communicate by text.
Heads pointed down and fingers flying, total introspection,
As they “talked” there to each other, with no meaningful connection.
I’ve seen a family in a pub, all gathered for a meal,
It’s no exaggeration, and to me it seemed surreal,
Both parents and the children, with i-pads in their hand,
They may as well have been apart, all in some distant land,
In separate worlds they surf the net, oblivious of each other,
Just how does that fit in with being a Father or a Mother?
So is it any wonder that when youngsters do speak out,
The noises that they make leave no room for any doubt,
That they’ve lost the use of English, with a sentence all expressed,
With grammar and vocabulary suitably addressed.
No “I was like” and “she was like”, such tortured, mangled speech,
With constant interjections as they struggle there to reach,
For the words to tell their story, in sentences that vary,
With such easy, practiced reference to a wide vocabulary.
I see recorded interviews with people in the street,
A “vox pop” scene from years gone by, with sentences complete,
So very different from today, I sometimes wonder whether,
The person being interviewed can string three words together,
Without “you know” or “kind of like”, or using that ”I mean”,
To fill those yawning gaps where those lost words would once have been.
And even social gatherings work against good conversation,
With some awful, blaring disco blocking all communication,
As you sit and strain to lip-read what your neighbours try to say,
But the decibels still triumph, and those words just fade away,
So you smile and nod, and then give up, another chance is lost,
To communicate with others, and it all comes at a cost.
At heart we’re social animals, and we have the gift of speech,
To serve our complex lifestyles, to help us all to reach,
A proper understanding of what brings us all together,
To cement a lasting friendship takes some concentrated blether.
So I’m making no apologies, and I may be an old fart,
But I mourn for conversation, fast becoming a lost art…

Juliet27 Sun 02-Apr-23 07:07:30

Absolutely brilliant and sadly so true.

BigBertha1 Sun 02-Apr-23 07:24:33

I still chat on the phone and text family and friends and use What's app for groups. I would say I am a frequent communicator on all mediums.

Greyduster Sun 02-Apr-23 08:01:38

I’m afraid talking to people has always been in the Yorkshire DNA. Striking up casual conversations with strangers is a perfectly natural thing to do, but I think it will probably die out with my children’s generation. I am another who hates phone calls but if I didn’t make them there would be days when I didn’t hear another human voice! My DD is not comfortable on the phone; prefers WhatsApp (even then she often doesn’t respond to messages) but DS can chat for England, fortunately.

Franbern Sun 02-Apr-23 08:40:09

I love, and look forward to my weekly gossip on the phone with my eldest daughter. One of the best hours of the week. I also have a rule that I speak on the phone, with my other adult children at least once a month, either they ring me or I telephone them, even my son who admits to disliking talking to people on the phone, make an exception for me.

For a quick and easy message about something I do use messenger or whatsap, but for a 'catch up' nothing replaces the 'phone.

Jaxjacky Sun 02-Apr-23 09:05:26

I speak to my children on the phone at least once a week, as well as messenger or WhatsApp. Other family either call me or I them every couple of weeks and I have friends who regularly chat on the phone. So, proper phone calls are still alive here.

M0nica Sun 02-Apr-23 09:24:34

Never text, if I can avoid it. my fingertips are numb after a carpal tunnel operation,

DD and I talk on the phone for hours and even DS and family talk to each other. Phones are items of utility in our family, in all three generations. I am often not sure where mine is and from the time it takes DS to answer phone I think he is the same.

Jbp1 Sun 02-Apr-23 09:43:55

NanaDana
Brilliant but so sad!
Let’s hope it turns round before it’s too late.☹️

Luckygirl3 Sun 02-Apr-23 09:52:01

I don't worry that this will happen. People will still be out and about and meeting up. They will use the phone less - already do - but that is fine.

I treasure my whatsapp groups with my DDs and with my friendship group. We wing messages back and forth - and pictures - and have far more contact than we would if we just relied on the phone. I keep in contact with DDs' lives in a way that would have been impossible before.

Not all change is bad!

glammanana Sun 02-Apr-23 09:52:13

Since lockdown for 2 years I find such a lot of people have got into the habit of texting each other rather than pick up the phone my DD and DS are the only ones who tend to use the landline to check on me daily.
I do PM quite a few virtual friends that I have made over my many years on GN which was a Godsend during Covid.
I can't see losing the art of conversation happening at all everyone needs to hear a human voice at some time or another surely ?

foxie48 Sun 02-Apr-23 10:10:59

I watched "Race across the world" for the first time yesterday. For those who are unfamiliar with the programme, teams of two have a limited budget, no phone or laptop and they have to travel across large, sometimes quite remote distances to get to the finishing point. With just a map it's obvious that you need local information but some of the participants found it really difficult to talk to strangers, those who did did best and also IMO enriched their experience too. Yes it's really sad, I enjoy a good chat with friends on the phone if I haven't seen them for a while and I'm one of those people who always chat to strangers to while away the time on journeys.

Kim19 Sun 02-Apr-23 10:11:38

I like a confirmation text when facts such as dates and times are involved but other than that it's chat every time. Thankfully my friends and family seem to agree on this.

Antonia Sun 02-Apr-23 10:53:01

NanaDana

Here's one I wrote earlier..
A Lost Art?
I love to meet with friends, and to sit with them and chat,
A rewarding way to pass the time, discussing this and that,
As we set the world to rights that talk’s a favourite occupation,
A chance to join with others in the art of conversation.
But as I look around these days I worry when I see,
So many bad examples of how things have come to be.
Two girls there on the Metro left me feeling quite perplexed,
As they sat next to each other to communicate by text.
Heads pointed down and fingers flying, total introspection,
As they “talked” there to each other, with no meaningful connection.
I’ve seen a family in a pub, all gathered for a meal,
It’s no exaggeration, and to me it seemed surreal,
Both parents and the children, with i-pads in their hand,
They may as well have been apart, all in some distant land,
In separate worlds they surf the net, oblivious of each other,
Just how does that fit in with being a Father or a Mother?
So is it any wonder that when youngsters do speak out,
The noises that they make leave no room for any doubt,
That they’ve lost the use of English, with a sentence all expressed,
With grammar and vocabulary suitably addressed.
No “I was like” and “she was like”, such tortured, mangled speech,
With constant interjections as they struggle there to reach,
For the words to tell their story, in sentences that vary,
With such easy, practiced reference to a wide vocabulary.
I see recorded interviews with people in the street,
A “vox pop” scene from years gone by, with sentences complete,
So very different from today, I sometimes wonder whether,
The person being interviewed can string three words together,
Without “you know” or “kind of like”, or using that ”I mean”,
To fill those yawning gaps where those lost words would once have been.
And even social gatherings work against good conversation,
With some awful, blaring disco blocking all communication,
As you sit and strain to lip-read what your neighbours try to say,
But the decibels still triumph, and those words just fade away,
So you smile and nod, and then give up, another chance is lost,
To communicate with others, and it all comes at a cost.
At heart we’re social animals, and we have the gift of speech,
To serve our complex lifestyles, to help us all to reach,
A proper understanding of what brings us all together,
To cement a lasting friendship takes some concentrated blether.
So I’m making no apologies, and I may be an old fart,
But I mourn for conversation, fast becoming a lost art…

What a great post!

HousePlantQueen Sun 02-Apr-23 11:30:30

Like others, I send a text to say 'In for a chat?' as I would hate to think someone was rolling their eyes as they picked up the 'phone and had to turn off their TV/stop cooking their supper or whatever. Otherwise, with adult children it is various messenger, WhatsApp during the week, and generally a good long chat once or twice a week with DD, and less frequently with DS who works shifts. Having said all this, I spend quite a lot of time directly with local friends, out for a coffee/lunch in the winter and in back gardens drinking cold white wine and putting the world to rights in the summer months; one of my favourite ways to spend an afternoon.

downtoearth Sun 02-Apr-23 11:35:52

One friend will message 'fancy a chat' I let her set the pace as she has a busier life,but I know the conversation can last up to two hours.

Another elderly friend dosent know how to text,her calls can and have lasted up to three hours as she is lonely,I dont answer immediatley,but do call back when I have the time to sit and listen and give my attention to her undistracted,normally same day but depends what time I have.
Son,and Grandaughter,ring and text.
Other friends text/ whats app
Brother rings/texts/ whats apps