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Serkeen Fri 29-Sep-17 18:58:58

I get it, The Judge felt she had something to give to society.

But would you be happy for her to operate on you ? ?

www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/judge-who-spared-oxford-student-jail-investigated/ar-AAsBztV?li=AAmiR2Z&ocid=spartanntp

loopyloo Fri 29-Sep-17 19:01:15

No. If she is so intelligent she should have known better than to behave like that. Send her down.

maryeliza54 Fri 29-Sep-17 19:07:23

Haven't we just had a thread on this?

maryeliza54 Fri 29-Sep-17 19:08:42

www.gransnet.com/forums/chat/a1240799-Oxford-student-Lavinia-Woodward-spared-jail-for-knife-attack

Here it is

Chewbacca Fri 29-Sep-17 19:36:23

I'm very glad that the sentence she was given is to be reviewed because I think that, had a man stabbed a woman in the leg, whilst under the influence of drink or drugs, he would have faced a custodial sentence and the sentence she was given for that was not appropriate. Judges have, in the past, been investigated when the sentences they have passed have been too lenient and do not reflect the severity of the crime. And as for Lavinia Woodward having any kind of a career in medicine now, I would seriously doubt it. She's proven that she can't handle stress, which is a prerequisite for being a surgeon.

By the way, the other GN thread was about Lavinia Woodwards sentencing. Isn't this thread about the judge being investigated for the sentence given? In which case, a new thread seems appropriate.

MawBroon Fri 29-Sep-17 19:51:06

OP seems to be revisiting the sentence rather than the link which is indeed about the judge being investigated.
Perhaps OP didn't read it herself?

Serkeen Fri 29-Sep-17 20:07:51

Yes of course read it I just wanted peoples views on 'would they be happy to be operated on by this person ? ?

I know I would not, like somenone said she should have known better

Chewbacca Fri 29-Sep-17 20:13:44

No matter what sentence is passed on her now Serkeen I can't imagine that she will go on to have a career as a surgeon. This will stay on her record and be referred to on any job application that she makes. As for the judge who passed the extraordinarily lenient sentence; I'm not sure what will happen to him. Can judges be sacked?

Serkeen Fri 29-Sep-17 21:18:05

Yes true Chewbacca She sounds and looks a bit of a nutcase if I am honest

maryeliza54 Fri 29-Sep-17 21:25:16

Is the sentence going to be reviewed? As for his being investigated, someone has complained about the sentence - it doesn't mean there's any merit in the complaint but any complaint will have to be looked at. I don't think it was an extraordinarily lenient sentence - it was within the sentencing guidelines .As for her future prospects, her first hurdle would actually be being registered by the GMC and she's not even qualified yet.

maryeliza54 Fri 29-Sep-17 21:30:36

Just read that there were three complaints against him and all have been rejected because it's only complaints against his personal conduct that can be investigated. Any appeal against sentence would go down the court route and I thought I'd read somewhere that an appeal can't happen with this particular offence.

Iam64 Fri 29-Sep-17 21:37:16

"sounds and looks a bit of a nutcase if I'm honest". Thank goodness the majority of our Judges are more articulate, sensitive and accurate in their Judgements.

This sentence was within the guidelines. The evidence remains that women, especially those convicted of violence, tend to be more harshly sentenced than men. Two women die each week at the hands of ex or current partners. This young woman has no previous convictions. She was vulnerable for various reasons, as set out in the Judgement.

I'm not in the least worried she'll operate on me, or on anyone else. She hasn't yet qualified, this incident will follow her everywhere. I see no point in sending her to our over flowing prisons. A community sentence or as the Judge decided, suspended sentence and she must stay sober. Good enough for me.

maryeliza54 Fri 29-Sep-17 21:46:44

And whether she'd gone to prison or not is actually completely irrelevant so far as her possible future as a doctor is concerned. The GMC do not look at the sentence that someone has received but what the conviction was actually for. She has a criminal record and that what counts and what it's for.

Serkeen Fri 29-Sep-17 21:52:38

Iam64 are you in cahoot with mawbrown you both seem to be following my posts and commenting negatively ??

Do not hate appreciate smile

MawBroon Fri 29-Sep-17 21:57:08

confused
Leave me out of this serkeen and perhaps restrict your comments to the subject of the thread instead of taking pot shots at me?
(The name is MawBroon BTW and "cahoots" are generally plural)

Serkeen Fri 29-Sep-17 21:59:37

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Chewbacca Fri 29-Sep-17 22:04:12

Oh! I thought this was an actual discussion about a recent court case not a tat for tat feud. I'm out.

Serkeen Fri 29-Sep-17 22:05:08

I care not what your name is smile and I care even less about plurals smile

Serkeen Fri 29-Sep-17 22:07:55

mmm can not say I blame you Chewbacca smile it is getting ugly up here smile but it had to be said got a bit sick of these two following my every post and commenting negatively, my patience ran out smile

Serkeen Fri 29-Sep-17 22:09:16

I have received four PM's telling me to ignore them both and I have for a while smile

Smithy Fri 29-Sep-17 22:16:23

Some folk are just easily rattled, don't take it personally!

Serkeen Fri 29-Sep-17 22:26:09

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Smithy Fri 29-Sep-17 22:51:41

I think I'd do what the PMs suggested - at least I hope I would.

Stansgran Sat 30-Sep-17 08:39:30

Are they really following you or are just interested in the same threads Serkeen. I can't believe any medical school would have her back.