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Liz. and Phil

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Morgana Fri 17-Nov-17 20:51:43

Keep seeing all these ads for forthcoming TV programme. Do we really think they are still madly in love?

M0nica Fri 17-Nov-17 21:09:16

How many couples in such a long lasting marriage, or even one much shorter, say 40 plus years, would say that they were still 'madly in love' but many would say that they still loved their spouse.

I have no idea how the Queen and Prince Philip feel about their relationship but it is no business of mine, or anyone else's, for that matter, to ask such a personal and intrusive question of anyone they do not know.

lemongrove Fri 17-Nov-17 21:41:27

I agree completely Monica

paddyann Sat 18-Nov-17 00:25:37

there have been stories about him and a string of other women,but if Lizzie is happy to accept that its her choice.We all live our lives how we want and its no one else's business.Must admit though as a republican I'd rather not have them at all.Hopefully it will come to an end when she dies.Another three generations of monarchy surely not needed.Its a medieval concept in a modern world ,its had its time .

Christinefrance Sat 18-Nov-17 09:08:57

I agree MOnica they have supported and cared for each other over many years and in difficult circumstances at times.
That is love in my book.

Humbertbear Sat 18-Nov-17 09:15:00

They have been a partnership. They knew they could never divorce and have just got on with it like most people. The only difference is that with a home the size of Buckingham Palace they don’t have to see each other everyday if they don’t want to. What would his life have been if he hadn’t married her?

DanniRae Sat 18-Nov-17 09:32:35

I read in the paper (DM) that Prince Philip is mainly living out of London and thus separate from the Queen? I found this very odd but as others have said it's their life and if it suits them, after all these years, then fine.

vampirequeen Sat 18-Nov-17 09:52:33

My mam told me that things fell apart when the Queen told Princess Margaret that she couldn't marry the divorced chap. Princess Margaret was distraught and told the Queen what everyone had been hiding from her i.e. that Prince Philip was unfaithful. However as divorce was out of the question they just got on with it but the relationship was never the same again.

Perhaps they don't see sexual fidelity as the be all and end all of a relationship?

Maybe that was why Charles thought he could be married to Diana and have Camilla on the side. Was it the family norm? If so, it must have been a hell of a shock when Diana (and Fergie with Andrew) simply didn't accept it.

Bellasnana Sat 18-Nov-17 09:56:46

None of anybody else's business and referring to them as 'Liz and Phil' is rude, in my humble opinion.

Luckygirl Sat 18-Nov-17 09:59:58

Yes indeed - I read somewhere that the Dof E's advice to Charles condoned "offside" relationships. I do not see anything much worthy of celebration about Phil and Liz - all you can really say is they married and they have not divorced. We have no evidence that it is a match made in heaven and that they have been faithful, so why all the fuss?

vampirequeen Sat 18-Nov-17 10:06:55

Phil and Liz are their names so why is it rude? Would it still be rude if we wrote Philip and Elizabeth? They're a couple who have lived their lives in the public eye and have done very well out of it.

Grandma70s Sat 18-Nov-17 10:09:22

I think affairs were pretty much accepted by the upper classes of that generation, for the men at least. I have no idea if Philip had any or not, but it wouldn't have wrecked their marriage.

They must be used to each other by now, at least. That is all we can know. I hope Philip makes it to Monday, the day of their anniversary. He looked terrible at the Remembrance formalities, I thought.

I think the Queen lives mostly in Windsor rather than Buckingham Palace.

Anniebach Sat 18-Nov-17 10:10:01

It's how arranged marriages work, the media insist on this great love, neither of them have ever given an interview or run to the press like Diana-thank heaven . Queenie also spends most of her time at Windsor .

Think of the constant story of the QM who said in the war - I will not leave without the king and the children will not leave without me. They were tucked away at Windsor with a plane on standby .

Their marriage seems to be that of a couple who put duty before all else, it's how they were brought up and it's what was expected of them. I am sure they have a very strong and deep friendship and affection for each other, they can trust each other with their secrets.

maryeliza54 Sat 18-Nov-17 10:11:29

The problem for me is that we are supposed to buy into the myth that is their relationship and the whole Royal Family. We will never know the truth and at one level I couldn’t care less but I dislike the fact that we are treated like idiots in the image we are fed.

henetha Sat 18-Nov-17 10:11:40

No-one can possibly know how the Queen and Prince Philip feel about each other, and it's nobody elses business. But I would say there is deep affection. I don't think the phrase
"madly in love" is appropiate for anyone of their age.
And I think we should have a bit of respect for the Queen, whatever our views.

lemongrove Sat 18-Nov-17 10:11:41

Does everyone on GN have a ‘ match made in Heaven’ ?
They certainly looked happy in their younger days, and like most of us have grown older together and understand each other, and yes love each other.
Nobody our age is wildly ‘in love’.

paddyann Sat 18-Nov-17 10:13:16

you do know bellasnanna that they are JUST humans like the rest of us...that they aren't superior beings although they appear to think they are.? There is NO divine right of accession or even no right for them and their multiplying offspring to be kept at a huge cost to the country .The French and the Russians had the right idea ..its centuries out of date .

maryeliza54 Sat 18-Nov-17 10:13:27

Well given that heaven doesn’t exist for one thing .....

maryeliza54 Sat 18-Nov-17 10:15:41

They are just like the rest of us - worrying about getting a GP appointment, the waiting list for our knee replacement, the electric bill if it’s a cold winter, helping our children on the housing ladder, worrying about our eyesight and driving especially when there’s no public transport .....

Grandma70s Sat 18-Nov-17 10:26:34

maryeliza54 We are not ‘supposed’ to buy into a myth. We can think whatever we like. Personally, I quite enjoy having a royal family. It’s better than a soap opera. I have no objection to a very, very small proportion of our population being rich.

Bellasnana Sat 18-Nov-17 10:50:22

There is no need to be patronizing, paddyann. That's your opinion. Mine is different.

Anniebach Sat 18-Nov-17 11:05:00

The French and Russians had the right idea? Murder . We all have own beliefs in the taking of lives I suppose. I have always been against the death penalty.

merlotgran Sat 18-Nov-17 11:09:11

Since his retirement the D of E has apparently been living at Wood farm, described as a 'modest cottage' hmm on the Sandringham estate. It has had its uses that's for sure.

This is where the unfortunate teenage Prince John was hidden away for two years with his nurse until his death. It has also been used to house unpopular divorced spouses like Fergie so they can see their children at Christmas.

Now it's the Royal Care Home grin

I wish them both a Happy Anniversary.

Anniebach Sat 18-Nov-17 11:10:11

Heaven doesn't exsist in the opinions of atheists

Gemmag Sat 18-Nov-17 11:22:46

Liz and Phil........

Appalling bad taste!. It’s none of our business?